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Posted: 5/10/2008, 4:59 pm
by Johnny
Indeed.



They better not gay it up and have Mothra make a cameo in that sequel!

Posted: 5/10/2008, 11:36 pm
by Neil
I heard Brenden Frasier (spell check) is doing another installment of "The Mummy." His co-star is set to be Jet Li.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 12:26 am
by xjsb125
In some of the video I saw from Abrams, he said that they left a lot of creative room for a sequel. At the end of the credit there is a voice, when played backwards, that say "it's still alive." Additionally, in the bridge scene Hud is filming and sees another guy who is also running a camera, and they briefly look at each other. Abrams said that could also be a point where two movies intersect, and that it could be documented from someone else's point of view.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 1:55 am
by Lando
Kicker774 wrote:Wasn't impressed with Iron Man from the beginning.

MORE SPOILERS!!


AC/DC - Back in Black - Well designed to fire up every nascar lovin yokel in the crowd!!

I can understand a terrorist being able to acquire WMD or at least the parts to make WMD. But why is you have all those parts yet you have to make a mold then manufacture from molten steel a fricken $0.87 gasket??

Standard action hero movie montage. So many things happening at once. Show it all or it will take to long. That's called a Montage! (Montage!!) Even Rocky had a Montage! (Montage!!) Always fade out in a Montage!

The head of your company and the man behind all of your companies ideas goes missing for 3 months but onyl when he comes back to announce their finished making weapons does the stock plummet 30 points.

Mega B-B-B-B-B-B-BOO YEAS for the Jim Cramer cameo though, got a kick outta that.

An "Arc Reactor" is that the best you can come up with? I never followed comic books so if that's the original term Stan Lee came up with back in the '60's it's cool.
Maybe it's just my opinion but I'd take a Flux Capacitor over an Arc Reactor any day.

What kind of multi-billionaire can't afford both a shop for the development of weapons and a garage for your fleet of expensive sports cars separate from each other?
I mean I mess with crap in my garage from time to time but at least I'm smart enough to pull my car out if I think stuff has the chance of flying around, much less flames hitting the hood of my car. (Which btw he must have developed some kind of nanonite molecular healing paint because the paint job on that Audi still looked perfect)

If you have all kinds of robot arms and robot assistants why then do you need Gweneth Paltrow to pull a cord out of your chest cavity?

On the subject wasn't that a ring I saw on her finger while performing that surgery?? That kind of kills the whole 'Scully v. Mulder are they ever going to hook up??' drama. She's probably already married to some rockstar husband w/ 2 kids named Apple and Bandanna.

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That wasn't "Hacking" into a "Mainframe" Paltrow did. She merely copied some files off a laptop or at worst off a file server. OMG that was some 733T H@x0r1ng $k1llzz

Why can't a guy who can come up with the iCurtain and the most advanced artificial intelligence available come up with a way to get the files he needs from home?

I wouldn't want to buy and home security products from Stark that allows any evil dude with a goatee to just waltz right into your home and pull your frickin heart out of your chest.

That was actually Downey's best work laying there as a sweaty pale, red-eyed heap on the couch. It's almost as if he went on a coke binge during shooting and they just went with it.

Downey Jr's delivery snappy delivery wasn't bad but it was too scripted and nothing out of the box.

If he had any dry cool wit I didn't notice it. Certainly no memorable catch phrase or war cry.

No 'Hasta la vista', no 'This chick is toast!', not even a campy 'Your circuits just been shortened' line at the end just before finishing the evil-doer off.

But in true comic book movie fashion the ending left the door wide open for a sequel.

I'm sure 5 years from now while Stark is running for President we'll see a cut scene of that same evil terrorist in war torn Afghanistan plotting Starks certain doom over a small flickering Arc reactor.

If your looking for an action flick turn over to AMC for the weekend Charles Bronson marathon.

If your looking for an option to entertain your 10 year old nephew after you've already been on the playstation for 5 hours straight then go see Iron Man.


I like how you take it apart with reasons that made the movie difficult for you to take seriously... IT'S A COMIC BOOK MOVIE. It's not supposed to be realistic... I'm surprised I didn't hear any complaints about the fact that he could fly being impossible... although, then you completely contradicted yourself by wanting the cliché cheesy catch phrase, which other than for will ferrell movies, went out of style in the mid 90s! You sure you didn't want to see a big epic battle at the end like every other superhero movie? They could've thrown that in maybe! So, to revamp the movie to your liking, they need to make it realistic so things such as the stockmarket are portrayed accurately like in the real world... Obidiah couldn't have handled things while Tony was gone I guess... Or it they couldn't have found a way to cover up his disappearance from the public for a while. Way too implausible! Then, while we have a true to life movie, where Iron Man is really a guy who has to take a helicopter everywhere because he couldn't realistically fly and he only has machine guns. No fake weaponry would be allowed! So he'd get off the chopper in front of I don't know, some evil dictator... Kim Jong Il perhaps and then he could start spouting a bunch of cliché one liners that remind people of Arnold Schwarzennegger movies!

Okay, I'm sold. I want to see that movie too now! But Iron Man's suit has to be made of actual Iron, so he can barely move because he's so heavy... and on the chopper on his way to fight Kim Jong Il, he has to be watching the movie Last Action Hero... you know, getting himself ready to make people walk out of the theatre the moment he gives his first TOTALLY RADICAL catch phrase that everyone's going to to be quoting for months!

Posted: 5/11/2008, 2:08 am
by Henrietta
The Great Mouse Detective

Posted: 5/11/2008, 11:15 am
by Kicker774
I'm just saying Iron Man was half assedly pushed out.
If you want to have a fantasy comic book based movie then go all the way with it. If you want it to be a haunting look at the near future then go with it.

Movies that try to do both don't work for me. Hence it's more enjoyable to tear them apart ala MST3k

The trend to keep bringing back and remaking comic book movies is wearing thin. Apparently they couldn't come up with an idea for Spiderman 4 or Hulk 2: Hulk vs. Captain America.

Is history doomed to repeat itself? We've done every 70's comic book movie. Are we going to start seeing 70's tv shows turned into movies?

Laverne and Shirley the Movie
Threes Company the Movie
How about Sheriff Lobo? Bring back Sheriff Lobo!

Why can't they remake a good show like BJ and the Bear? Now theres a concept I can't get enough of: A man and his monkey.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 11:34 am
by ihatethunderbay
Iron Man was half-assed?

Dude, it was a near 100% comics-accurate origin story, updated accordingly (because they can't have him in Vietnam (or was it Korea?) like in the comics and thus they will be saving The Mandarin for later, though they did allude to him by calling the terrorist organization 'The Ten Rings').

Also, I don't know where you're getting this 're-done 70s movies' crap from because there was no Iron Man movie before this. The Hulk was a TV series, there was a ridiculously shitty Spider-Man TV series, and of course Batman.

Are you saying they should leave that outdated, inaccurate shit to stand as the best representation of those comics? 'Cause if you are it's a fucking disgrace to the comics. They have the technology and the money to do this shit -right- and it would be fucking stupid to just ignore comic movies because some producer crapped out a low-budget shitfest in the 70s.

Yeah, a bunch of the movies have sucked ass (X-3, Spidey 3, both Fantastic 4 movies) but they're getting on the right track now with Iron Man and TDK (and if Kevin McKidd is actually gonna play Thor in that movie than that should end up pretty kickass as well).

Also I don't get where you're going with 'trying to be fantasy comic book or haunting look at the near future'. Iron Man was just doing what it did in the comics. Have you taken a look at any of the books recently? Ultimates, even? It's not the ridiculous POW BAM BIFF of the 60s and 70s. Comics are way more grounded nowadays. Yeah there's still ridiculous shit like Spider-Man making deals with the devil or whatever the fuck that One More Day retcon bullshit was but shitty stories that no comic readers like aside, the good stuff is pretty much as grounded as it is in the movies. TDK is The Long Halloween, Iron Man is the origin. Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger was ripped directly from the pages, same with Yinsen, Pepper Potts, Jim Rhodes/War Machine.

Hell, they even improved on JARVIS, who was actually a butler instead of an AI in the comics (and would have made people go on about 'olololz he is teh ripoffs of teh batmanz and alfreds!!! olol')

In conclusion, callin Iron Man 'half-assed' is the stupiest fucking thing I have ever heard. Don't like it all you want but your criticisms just sound like you're trying to grasp at straws. It pretty much did everything right for a comic movie and I think the only thing that's going to top it is TDK. Even then it's kind of hard to compare them, because Iron Man is going for a more light-hearted action angle while TDK is going for some darker, more psychological stuff.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 1:06 pm
by Neil
Who here (besides me) was stoked to hear the two individuals who are reportedly going to write and direct the movie adaptation of the video game, Bioshock. I'm stoked!

Posted: 5/11/2008, 1:25 pm
by Johnny
It will suck, garunteed.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 5:41 pm
by Lando
Kicker774 wrote:I'm just saying Iron Man was half assedly pushed out.
If you want to have a fantasy comic book based movie then go all the way with it. If you want it to be a haunting look at the near future then go with it.


Is history doomed to repeat itself? We've done every 70's comic book movie. Are we going to start seeing 70's tv shows turned into movies?


Like ihatethunderbay says, it's a very accurate representation of the comic, not only that, but many movie critics are saying it's better than the first Spider-Man movie which has been hailed as the best comic book to be turned into a movie, until now.
As for the comic book movie thing wearing thin, these movies are bringing in record breaking ticket sales... so they're not going to go anywhere soon.

Are we going to START seeing 70's revivals? Where have you been? Ever hear of Starsky and Hutch, The Dukes of Hazzard, I dream of Jeannie, The Brady Bunch, Charlie's Angels, Fat Albert, Josie and the Pussycats, Dudley Do Right, The Mod Squad, or the new Get Smart movie that's being made? There's also a Love Boat movie on the way... That's not even including a bunch of movies made from 1960's televison that I could list... but you said 70's, so I didn't bother!

Posted: 5/11/2008, 7:55 pm
by laurel
as lando has just shown, having evidence to back your argument is a smart idea. prevents what you've said from getting ripped to shreds.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 8:15 pm
by Lando
Henrietta wrote:The Great Mouse Detective


I have that movie on VHS! :mrgreen:

Posted: 5/11/2008, 8:24 pm
by Neil
Johnny wrote:It will suck, garunteed.


I just may have to disagree. Possibly.

Posted: 5/11/2008, 9:13 pm
by Kicker774
Lando wrote:As for the comic book movie thing wearing thin, these movies are bringing in record breaking ticket sales... so they're not going to go anywhere soon.


From that reasoning I guess since Britney Spears and other talentless hacks are anything but seeing as how they rake in fistfull of dollars everywhere they go.

Is it too much to ask for an original idea?

Posted: 5/11/2008, 9:13 pm
by myownsatellite
Go read T. S. Eliot's essay "Tradition and the Individual Talent."

Posted: 5/11/2008, 11:54 pm
by Lando
Kicker774 wrote:
Lando wrote:As for the comic book movie thing wearing thin, these movies are bringing in record breaking ticket sales... so they're not going to go anywhere soon.


From that reasoning I guess since Britney Spears and other talentless hacks are anything but seeing as how they rake in fistfull of dollars everywhere they go.

Is it too much to ask for an original idea?


The movie industry and the music/recording industry are two separate forms of media and entertainment. There are always going to be similarities, but in general, they're two very different giants.

There are a lot of original ideas. Just don't expect them to be the big Hollywood blockbusters that studios and producers are willing to back with millions of dollars. I could list a ton of original great ideas/films too, but come on, when these comics were new they were original ideas. Just because they're old, doesn't mean they're not as good as something someone comes up with now... That goes for anything that was created in the past and was once an original idea. If it stood the test of time and is still with people today in any form, don't you think that says something about it being a decent idea to begin with? Sure, you can call it unoriginal because it might be something you've seen before, or it feels like a retread of an avenue already explored, but if it wasn't a good idea to begin with, people wouldn't have ever had the revelation to create something similar because they know it will be popular. You don't see people trying to mimic the bad ideas, because there's no point in copying or adapting something no one will care about.

Posted: 5/12/2008, 12:05 am
by Lando
laurel wrote:as lando has just shown, having evidence to back your argument is a smart idea. prevents what you've said from getting ripped to shreds.


it's not really that I'm trying to rip people's opinions or arguments apart. although you're right, that's what I did basically... maybe more subtly than ihatethunderbay though, less F words in mine! Kicker doesn't necessarily have a lot of knowledge in the field of television/movies. A lot of people don't really know a lot about the movie industry or what has been released as far as the TV to Movie adaptations I mentioned. I'm sure kicker knows a lot more than me about the stockmarket... but I just try to clarify my opinions based on things I know a lot about, which happens to be movies. It's tough to have evidence of something you don't have a lot of knowledge about. Sure you could research it and that would help a bit, but people are always going to have opinions of their likes and dislikes without researching if their opinions are warranted or if perhaps they've been mislead by things such as the media itself, or if they were just uninformed and as such formed an opinion based on personal preference. Opinions often change, mine have, I know that. It just took a little bit of learning more about what I had the opinion about. Sometimes I was right on the money for the right reasons, other times, way off for the wrong reasons!

Posted: 5/12/2008, 1:41 am
by Lando
Neo wrote:I heard Brenden Frasier (spell check) is doing another installment of "The Mummy." His co-star is set to be Jet Li.


http://www.robcohenthemummy.com/

Posted: 5/12/2008, 3:06 am
by Henrietta
Wow. You guys are very serious about your movie criticisms.

I saw The Man Who Knew Too Little tonight.

Posted: 5/12/2008, 6:35 am
by Lando
Did you like it? It's been a while since I've seen that one, but Bill Murray is always cool.