Michael Moore's first response to the election.
Posted: 11/5/2004, 8:24 am
http://www.michaelmoore.com/
Now most people know I hate MM. And he is a very debatable character. People will defend him and shower him in vitriol long after the day he dies and we could go on for an eternity. So in the sake of fairness I'll take a pro-MM view and an Anti MM view and give my over all opinion at the end.
His response. (in the interests of keeping this readable)
Pro-MM view.
I believe he supports the troops and that that he would have much rather they never gotten in harm's way. Hence why he is against sending them to Iraq. I recognize that a pull-out would be disastrous in the geo-political sense, while redeeming in the moral "Don't send them to die" sense. That man went all around the country to reach out to young voters. He came to university campuses and spoke to the kids there about getting out to vote. He could just easily sit his fat ass at home eating twinkies enjoying the benefits of his film success and cozying up to Bruce Springsteen. But he wasn't doing that. He was hauling ass and doing everything in his power, even telling people they could download his movie for free, just to get Bush out of office. I also think he would resort to exploitation if it meant no more of these kids had to die. I know it's hard to believe but there are people out there that don't want to go to war and destroy families abroad and at home. You don't have to agree with him but don't ever think that he believes in his mission any less than Bush believes in his. I honestly believe that he just wants people to think about the human costs of the war in Iraq and Bush's policies.
Anti MM View.
He's exploiting the deaths of those soldiers for political gain, nothing more. If he even cared about them how hard would it have been to find an up to date list of those killed rather than a simple cut and paste of tsomething that's been sitting on his HDD for the past few months. I don't doubt that he believes in his mission, but there's no way he gives a rat's ass about anyone in Iraq. Moore's modus operandi is using incredible selectivity and cynical emotional manipulation to promote his agenda. One only needs to look at the one-sided and inaccurate Canadian segment of 'Bowling for Columbine' to see that. One-sided since he didn't cover the downsides of socialized health care, such as splints that fall apart the day after a hospital visit, or sitting in the emergency room for 17 hours with a life-threatening condition. Or how he didn't cover why it is so many rich Canadians go to the US for treatment. One can only speculate as to why the Canadian health care system is relevant to US gun control issues.
Further, the whole "nobody locks their doors" segment was utterly ridiculous. As a Canadian, I know this is completely untrue of the country at large. I don't know how many hundreds or thousands of doors he had to try before he found the 3 or 4 unlocked ones in BFC, but implying those people are representative of the country at large is inutterably dishonest.
Would such a man really give a shit if some young people got blown the fuck up in Iraq? Undoubtedly not. If anything, he's gleeful because it gives him ammo for his cause.
My opinion
Michael Moore doesn't have ulterior motives; that would imply that he's trying to hide something. Michael Moore is very open about his positions: he very obviously opposes Bush, supports Kerry and other Democrats, (and Nader in 2000). His motives are clear: The Left is good and The Right is bad - and he's using dead American soldiers to drive this point home. When you cross this line, the subject of your message takes a backseat to your agenda.
In other words, Michael Moore's agenda is more important to him than the fallen soldiers. His agenda is so important, in fact, that he's willing to use dead soldiers to further his career. It's not really an innocent thing to do or even an accident. It's blatant and it's disgusting.
Thank you for listening.
Now most people know I hate MM. And he is a very debatable character. People will defend him and shower him in vitriol long after the day he dies and we could go on for an eternity. So in the sake of fairness I'll take a pro-MM view and an Anti MM view and give my over all opinion at the end.
His response. (in the interests of keeping this readable)
Michael Moore wrote:Out of date list of soldiers killed in Iraq
May they rest in peace.
And may they forgive us someday.
Pro-MM view.
I believe he supports the troops and that that he would have much rather they never gotten in harm's way. Hence why he is against sending them to Iraq. I recognize that a pull-out would be disastrous in the geo-political sense, while redeeming in the moral "Don't send them to die" sense. That man went all around the country to reach out to young voters. He came to university campuses and spoke to the kids there about getting out to vote. He could just easily sit his fat ass at home eating twinkies enjoying the benefits of his film success and cozying up to Bruce Springsteen. But he wasn't doing that. He was hauling ass and doing everything in his power, even telling people they could download his movie for free, just to get Bush out of office. I also think he would resort to exploitation if it meant no more of these kids had to die. I know it's hard to believe but there are people out there that don't want to go to war and destroy families abroad and at home. You don't have to agree with him but don't ever think that he believes in his mission any less than Bush believes in his. I honestly believe that he just wants people to think about the human costs of the war in Iraq and Bush's policies.
Anti MM View.
He's exploiting the deaths of those soldiers for political gain, nothing more. If he even cared about them how hard would it have been to find an up to date list of those killed rather than a simple cut and paste of tsomething that's been sitting on his HDD for the past few months. I don't doubt that he believes in his mission, but there's no way he gives a rat's ass about anyone in Iraq. Moore's modus operandi is using incredible selectivity and cynical emotional manipulation to promote his agenda. One only needs to look at the one-sided and inaccurate Canadian segment of 'Bowling for Columbine' to see that. One-sided since he didn't cover the downsides of socialized health care, such as splints that fall apart the day after a hospital visit, or sitting in the emergency room for 17 hours with a life-threatening condition. Or how he didn't cover why it is so many rich Canadians go to the US for treatment. One can only speculate as to why the Canadian health care system is relevant to US gun control issues.
Further, the whole "nobody locks their doors" segment was utterly ridiculous. As a Canadian, I know this is completely untrue of the country at large. I don't know how many hundreds or thousands of doors he had to try before he found the 3 or 4 unlocked ones in BFC, but implying those people are representative of the country at large is inutterably dishonest.
Would such a man really give a shit if some young people got blown the fuck up in Iraq? Undoubtedly not. If anything, he's gleeful because it gives him ammo for his cause.
My opinion
Michael Moore doesn't have ulterior motives; that would imply that he's trying to hide something. Michael Moore is very open about his positions: he very obviously opposes Bush, supports Kerry and other Democrats, (and Nader in 2000). His motives are clear: The Left is good and The Right is bad - and he's using dead American soldiers to drive this point home. When you cross this line, the subject of your message takes a backseat to your agenda.
In other words, Michael Moore's agenda is more important to him than the fallen soldiers. His agenda is so important, in fact, that he's willing to use dead soldiers to further his career. It's not really an innocent thing to do or even an accident. It's blatant and it's disgusting.
Thank you for listening.
the town i grew up in was extremly small. only bout 12 streets or so and we ALWAYS locked our doors. i could never imagine not locking my doors.