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i think so, popular music these days has met an all time low. Sure there's tons of good underground bands...but whathappened to good bands that mad good music, and made good money?????? Now that i think of it i don't think many people even actually like music anymore, it's either just a beat, background music, or else they bare through it pretending to like it because it's the thing to do.

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Has anyone else noticed that when you ask a person "what kind of music do you like?" and they reply "Everything". That 90% of the time it's bullshit and those are the people taht don't really like music at all. Sure there's the odd person with broad tastes, but even those people ussually elaborate.

yep.


i hate it when people ask me what i listen to.

i can answer something along the lines of "emo". but then they make me repeat myself and ask me what it is... and obviously i cant explain it to them.
or i can shrug and look like an idiot because i cant even answer a simple question.
or i can say "punk" and have them jump into Good Charlotte and Sum 41 and try to restrain myself from puking on them.


that had nothing to do with the topic... so yeah, you make a good point. there's hardly anything good on the radio now. but i dont know if it's any different than it was ten years ago. i'd probably hate nirvana and stone temple pilots and all that stuff if i was old enough to get into it back then. it's obviously better quality than what's out there now, but i think something about the "popular music" scene essentially makes a lot of bands unappealing to me.. and it would probably be the same if they were decent bands.

i'm not sure whether i'm that way in a sence aswell, but i do know that if you look purely at the music itself, popular music in the past still showed more talent, art and just plaing muscianship. As you can see from the Nostalgic 90's thread, there's lots of popular songs there that wern't exacty masterpieces, they were pretty commercial and simple, but the lyrics and musicianship was still light years ahead of most of our stuff. Could this be also linked to our generations flagging intrest in anything complex or long? Our attention spans these days are sickeningly low

I'd have to agree with the poor taste in music these days. I think it has to do more with the people than the industry, though... The industry's just going along with it and like the easy money, which is stupid.
I'm going to college to study to work in the music industry, and I know I'll definitely back up any good music I hear and complain about the crap. I even hear that people who work on MTV and such don't like the music they play, but they play it anyway. That's sad. I mean, they play the worst music on TRL and their music videos, yet on lame shows like "Rich Girls", I have actually heard pretty good music.. those musicians never get acknowledged, though. It's not cool at all.

yeah. A few days ago I was watching some show about rich pop stars on VH1 (hah i'm lame) and they played the Postal Service in the background, and didn't even mention them in the credits.

yeah, most music I hear on the radio these days is not quite my style, but some of it is good (Coldplay) and for the most part I avoid listening to the radio.

and hey, everytime anyone asks you what kind of music you listen to, just say "awesome rock." That's what I do.

The music industry is in shambles. There is no such thing as integrity anymore, it's rare for anyone to write all of their own music, and anyone can get a record deal.

Think about what's popular now.

And think about what was popular 10, 20 years ago.

The quality of the shit that sells today is horrendous.

IMHO.

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hhmm...does anyone think maybe there are more people out there that like good music than pop music? if so, aren't we just kidding ourselves by playing this shit on the radio? if it's the opposite, then music has definately just become something that people move to while they're dancing or turn on while they are driving.

what i don't get is how bands like default and forty foot echo get fucking record deals. their music is nothing special at all so there's no point listening to it.

just think, if we keep at the pace we are going at, 10 years from now every band will sound like default. i guess the name is kind of fitting...

the deep voice thing is just a fad... bands like Nickleback, Default, Creed, and even OLP (if Raine continues at his pace) won't be around much longer. Fads come and go almost yearly now. It's not as slow as it was in even the 90's.

For all we know next years fad is sitting in a gutter somewhere right now. No one knew Avril was coming and now all we have is little girls walking around with ties.

as long as britney spears is selling upwards of 55 million albums worldwide we will be stuck listening to her.

Hilary Duff has a record deal.....

Okay, look.

Comparing what you hear on the radio right now to all that "great, groundbreaking, wonderful music" of yesteryear simply isn't fair. Let's look back even a handful of years to when that god awful LFO "Summer Girls" song was the huge thing, or even more recently to when O Town had hit singles. The CD's sold a ton, they had a shit-load of airplay, etc etc and so forth.

Where are they now?

The music of yesteryear is, obviously, the music that's stood the test of time, so of course it's going to be good and have some quality about it that's simply timeless. Duh. You are neglecting to notice all the crap that came out back then, too, because it was crap and fell off the face of the Earth.

Yes, there is a lot of crap going on in the music industry, yes there is crap being released. This doesn't somehow fortell the downfall of art nor is it a harbinger of the death of the human spirit. It's just how things are.

Hell, we went through hair bands in the 80's, and finally fell into Nirvana and the like. We dealt with Boy Bands and came out it into the White Stripes.

The basic fact of the matter is 90% of anything is crap. But to compare everything nowadays with the 10% of stuff that was quality 20, 30 years ago and cry that the sky is falling is just wrong.

hey, that's true, pretty much 90% of anything IS crap . . . except for crap of course.

meh, it seems like even the crap from the the 60's, 70's and early 90's was better then our cap these days. I left out 80's because i agree between the New Wave and Hair Bands that was a shitty period. Hell the music before the 60's wasn't my style but it had more artistry then nowadays. But oh well i spose that's the way the cookie crumbles, soon enough another revolution will come and die

To answer the subject of this thread in a word: yes.

The industry itself isn't good at all, but I like digging around and trying to find that cool band that everyone else shruggs off. I don't really mind the terrible crap that much since I know its a fad.

Narbus wrote:Okay, look.

Comparing what you hear on the radio right now to all that "great, groundbreaking, wonderful music" of yesteryear simply isn't fair.

That's not even what I meant, necessarily.

Whenever I'm listening to the radio and I listen to old '80s pop music, I can't help but notice the QUALITY. The LYRICS are better, the CONTENT is better, even if whatever band/artist who sang the song was massmarketed or whatever..

Really.

Ahem.

"Whip it, whip it good."

"She blinded me with science"

"gonna dress you up in my love"

"We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue"

"Come on, pour some sugar on me in the name of love"

"Let me hear your body talk, your body talk"

"Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad, I'm hot for teacher."


Yes. Yes. These lyrics practically climb a building, spread their arms and just SCREAM quality unto the gods.

Hahahaha, good point. You got me there.

Wow, it's real hard to pick out one line from an entire song. Last time I checked, good songs try to tell stories. Let's go ahead and pick out crappy lines from songs you might like Narbus.

"Oh I, I have been good, I understood"

"Are you there? Is it wonderful?"

"Do you worry that you're not liked?"

"Has anybody wasted tears on loneliness that everyone becomes?"

"the entire Gravity album"

"Oh life is waiting for you"

Wow, if we really wanted to be critical about one line from a song, it would be pretty easy to say that OLP has had absolutely no discernable talent for songwriting. Jackass.