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Rear Admiral admits he's gay (no pun intended)

Posted: 12/11/2003, 8:32 pm
by Corey

Posted: 12/12/2003, 3:08 am
by Brooklin Matt
Wow, some days I think we are still living in caves.

Its hard to take the Army seriously when they want to represent freedom, but condone getting rid of "a certain type of people" from their ranks.........its as bad as excluding other races. What does being gay matter on the battle field??? Since being black or being a woman doesn't matter, its pretty obvious that being gay shouldn't either.

Posted: 12/12/2003, 6:56 am
by Axtech
Because obviously "the gays" will want to wear pink clothes, which doesn't make for good camouflage.

Posted: 12/12/2003, 1:34 pm
by I AM ME
:lol:
but seriously even if your going to be homophobic the worst a gay man could act is like a woman.....which they let into the army as well.

Posted: 12/14/2003, 10:02 am
by Corey
But do men and women sleep in the same barracks? And do you know why that is?

Posted: 12/14/2003, 10:30 am
by happening fish
Yup, since he's gay he must be a rapist.

Posted: 12/14/2003, 12:30 pm
by christa lynn
I don't think it's being said that he's a rapist. I think it's analogous(sp?) with why they don't have women on submarine crews (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that statement is status quo). I think the idea is that with the stress from battle/war situations the human mind can go a little wacko even with the people who start off with the best of intentions.

Posted: 12/14/2003, 1:08 pm
by Axtech
Even then, a gay person isn't any more likely to go wacko than anyone else...

Posted: 12/14/2003, 3:09 pm
by happening fish
Corey wrote:But do men and women sleep in the same barracks? And do you know why that is?


Women and men do not sleep in the same barracks to avoid sexual assaults. If you're not calling this man a rapist, then what exactly IS your point?

Posted: 12/14/2003, 9:42 pm
by Corey
What about gratuitous sex?

Posted: 12/16/2003, 12:04 am
by thirdhour
There was a huge amount of cases in the Canadian military a few years back where women in the military were getting raped. Alot. So quite obviously, this does happen.

Maybe there should be a rule that they arent allowed to have sex instead of making them deny their sexual orientaion. Although, I have no idea how one would inforce that. But it makes no difference if the army knows or not. They're still gay. Why the hush-hush?

Posted: 12/16/2003, 1:05 am
by christa lynn
Axtech wrote:Even then, a gay person isn't any more likely to go wacko than anyone else...

But he does has people in his barracks that are of the type that he is sexually attracted to, analogous to men and women needing separate barracks.

*DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying what the army is doing is right, I'm just trying to point out potential reasons for it. I think the debator mentality has leaked into me (I'm part of the debate club at UBC).

Posted: 12/16/2003, 4:23 pm
by happening fish
Ok, I don't think the ONE gay guy in there would be so dumb as to bumfuck someone in the middle of the night and then go.... "who, me?" :lol:

Posted: 12/16/2003, 6:26 pm
by Axtech
:lol:

Posted: 12/16/2003, 6:27 pm
by Axtech
Corey wrote:What about gratuitous sex?


What's more gratuitous about gay sex than straight?

Posted: 12/16/2003, 6:56 pm
by Corey
you can't have straight sex with a room full of guys..... last I checked.

Posted: 12/16/2003, 9:23 pm
by happening fish
what's wrong with sex?

Posted: 12/16/2003, 10:35 pm
by I AM ME
I'm pretty sure if a gay man tried something would be kciked out pretty quick, but if he didn't why punish him?

Posted: 12/16/2003, 11:19 pm
by thirdhour
Besides, who in their right mind would try something like that when surrounded by many men that like to kick ass. Somehow I don't think they'd be 'well accepted'...

Posted: 12/17/2003, 7:15 am
by Corey
you basically just rationalized the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.