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I'm looking through the academic requirements for various Ontario universities, and I'm reading the phrase "Six Grade 12 U or M courses" a lot, as in something like this:

Six Grade 12 U or M courses or equivalent including program specific prerequisite courses and English (one of ENG4U, ETS4U, EWC4U)/Anglais (one of EAE4U, EAL4U, EAC4U); English/Anglais (ENG4U/EAE4U) is the preferred English

I've looked everywhere, can someone enlighten me what a "U course" or a "M course" is? Do they mean a provincially examinable course, or just a Grade 12 course, or what?

Thanks in advance.

U course = university prep course (ex. ENG4U1 = gr 12 university english as opposed to ENG4C1 = gr 12 college English)

M course = mixed course, I look at it as being harder than C (college) and easier than U (university) (ex. my Digital Video course, TGJ4MW, the M in the course code is Mixed)

exactly.

... i pretty much have no idea what you just said.

eek.

um.

The requirements for entrance into Universities is going to be different if you're coming from BC, Jen. There might even be a page on the sites that'll give the requirements for people coming from out of province. Otherwise, you can contact the university, or even talk to your school counsellor. The counsellor should have info on Universities all over Canada.

Let's put it this way.

U level classes are the highest level and these class will allow you access into university and college to of course, but the classes are designed for students planning to go into university.

M level classes are designed for students who aren't sure if they want university or college, so they can get into either, but if university is available I would suggest taking it. You can apply to university if you take these level classes, but universities tend to look at U level classes in higher regards. Also, there is a heavier aspect on the university part of the classes.

C level classes are designed for students going into college. You cannot apply to a university with these classes.

The main difference besides what post secondary education you can apply to is the teaching methods. U and M (otherwise refered to as U/C) classes are more book learning and theory type stuff such as you would do in university. C level courses have more hands on type work, like you would do in college. They are designed to to prepare you for whichever post-secondary education you plan to pursue.

:O i understand! thanks rusty

we certainly don't have anything like U M C courses in BC... the only things that matter are the provincially examinable courses. i wonder what i'd have to do...

but yay i get it now.

That's good, I'm glad I could help. I bet if you emailed the OUAC people (I assume that's where you need to apply through) they can helo you.

That's crazy!

Kaegan wrote:The requirements for entrance into Universities is going to be different if you're coming from BC, Jen. There might even be a page on the sites that'll give the requirements for people coming from out of province. Otherwise, you can contact the university, or even talk to your school counsellor. The counsellor should have info on Universities all over Canada.

Exactly. Don't even worry about what the requirements are for Ontario students with their U/M/C courses because it doesn't apply to you. Most University websites list the requirements for each province since every province has a different education system. For example, coming to Ontario from Alberta I needed 5 30-level classes (30 levels are our grade 12 courses with provincial exams attached), and English was the only manditory course for me to have going into a liberal arts program.

And don't trust your school guidance counsellor unless you're very confident in them. My high school guidance office didn't know the requirements for any university outside of alberta - they messed me up because of it. Phone or email the university you're interested in instead - they won't steer you wrong.

Thanks Claire.

And yeah, I *don't* trust my school guidance counsellor, which is why I asked here on top of asking him (well, I plan to anyway). He told my friend the wrong requirements for a specific program she wanted to go into - and that's in a BC university! She had to go to summer school to take extra courses because of the whole fiasco.

Yeah, guidance fucked me over a lot too. *twitch*

What universities are you looking at?? What are you hoping to take??

well i have no idea just yet. but i was researching ryerson when i got confused about the u/m/c thing.

Out of province university-applying is confusing. So, in Quebec, they have til grade 11, then two years of CEGEP and then three of university. In BC, I did til grade 12, one year of college (but only 8 courses, so I think I need to do two more to get a full year`s worth of credit) and now want to go to university. Nobody seems to be able to give me straight answers on where I am in the Quebec academic scale. I even went to Concordia today to see if I could meet with an acedemic advisor, but no, I am just supposed to go to the website and apply. I can`t apply, because I don`t even know if I have the prerecs to GO to university. Fucking hell.

Instead of an academic advisor, maybe they have an admissions office that you can go to and ask questions?

im very far away from ontario

I bet I'm father!


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