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NEW YORK (AP) -- Pornographic movies now seem nearly as pervasive in America's hotel rooms as tiny shampoo bottles, and the lodging industry shows little concern as conservative activists rev up a protest campaign aimed at triggering a federal crackdown.

A coalition of 13 conservative groups -- including the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America -- took out full-page ads in some editions of USA Today earlier this month urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate whether some of the pay-per-view movies widely available in hotels violate federal and state obscenity laws.
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"These are places that you take your family -- these are respectable institutions," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. "Anything that brings porn into the mainstream is a concern. It just desensitizes people."
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"Really ultraconservative groups try to target the hotels in their zest to eliminate porn," Shepard said. "In their zest to have their personal morals prevail, they're eliminating choice for others."
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Both Kathy Shepard of Hilton and Roger Conner of Marriott said the bulk of their hotels are operated by franchise-holders who make their own decisions about in-room programming. They made clear, however, that their companies consider adult movies to be an acceptable option because they can be ignored or blocked out by guests not wishing to view them.
"Really ultraconservative groups try to target the hotels in their zest to eliminate porn," Shepard said. "In their zest to have their personal morals prevail, they're eliminating choice for others."


I'm curious to hear ppl's thoughts on this. Please discuss.

It should be up to the hotel to decide what services they offer, I think. Clearly it's legal for these types of pay per view channels to exist, so I don't see how it could possibly be illegal for them to exist in hotels.

...so you shouldn't have a computer in your home if there's kids around, because porn is accessible, and brings it into the mainstream? you shouldn't have a tv, because it may show 'the sex show' once in awhile? "Anything that brings porn into the mainstream is a concern. It just desensitizes people." that's your tvs, your computers.

it's moderated in hotels. you have to pay for the movie, and order it. you can't just flip on the tv and see sex. i don't understand how that's bringing porn into the mainstream, because they offer it in hotels. get rid of the pornos in 7-11. get rid of any educational sex show, cause that can be considered porn. there's a lot more unmoderated stuff out there to attack. hotels have a pretty good system that keeps kids away from their fine porno offerings.

laurel wrote:you have to pay for the movie, and order it. you can't just flip on the tv and see sex.

Thats my problem with it

Yeah it should be free. Since you have to pay a crapload for the hotel room anyway!

laurel wrote: get rid of any educational sex show, cause that can be considered porn.

That Sunday Night Sex Show with Sue Johanson, should have been taken off the air, because she's so damn hot, she's like watching a porno anyway.

laurel wrote:
ps. I love my porn!

you certainly do laurel, you certainly do...

i....HEY! NO!

Lando wrote:

laurel wrote:ps. I love my porn!

you certainly do laurel, you certainly do...

:lol:


The other thing I realized is that a lot of the hotels we've been in lately even have parental blocks so that if the kids are screwing around with the tv they can't accidentally buy a movie.

If the issue is the desensitization of the public to porn, I don't understand why hotels are a key target... I agree with laurel's comments above re: accessibility.

Porn? What's porn? I've never heard of porn in my life. o.o

I volunteer to look into this personally. I shall obtain a research grant, stay in many high class hotels and order porn, lots and lots of porn. I shall report back on my findings.....How do I get a research grant?

every time i click on this thread i think of the song vanilla sex by nofx.

don't ever take away from me my pornography. obviously, we don't agree on what's obscene.....

Oooooooooh NOFX...

I luuuuuurve NOFX

russell likes nofx almost as much as depeche mode.

almost as much as i love porn

half jill wrote:russell likes nofx almost as much as depeche mode.

I havn't heard depeche mode....but I have heard NOFX at warped tour.

Rusty wrote:

half jill wrote:russell likes nofx almost as much as depeche mode.

I havn't heard depeche mode

I think maybe that was her point...

Depeche Mode = sex.

PS: Porn is legal, therefore having porn in hotels is legal. This is just one more way for the conservative far right to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Forget free will, forget freedom of religion, forget freedom. They are determined to wipe fun off of this planet and then life will suck. The suicide rate will skyrocket because without fun what's left to live for? Then the only people left will be the people who think suicide will land you in hell, and then what kind of world will it be? Unleavened bread and no more sugar, that's what kind of world this will be.


And all because they tried to kick porn out of hotel rooms.

i think i'd put up with the lack of fun and not commit suicide just so i could torment the ultra conservatives by running around screaming "PRO PORN, PRO CHOICE, BOO BUSH!"

not a bad apocalypse at all. i know i'd have fun.