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Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 3/17/2003, 4:41 pm

exactly, wow,that statement just showed me your whole view on the world. ty, I 'll take the rest of your comments with a grain of salt, Doug.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/17/2003, 4:42 pm

and you're about the level of an ape

"me no likey the brown skin! me kill! oooga! oooga!"

if you believe there's a good reason to invade iraq, let's hear it. if you cant argue this rationally and reasonably, not only will you be proving my point about you but you'll also fail to engage me in a meaningful debate.

i won't argue with you if you refuse to think.

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 3/17/2003, 4:43 pm

btw thanks=) about the statements i wrote on democrats. Wow Capo is a demcrat, did he take that the wrong way? Nope, i guess you guys did. He knew i simply do not aggree witht he views and concepts of Demcratics.

Dr. Hobo · Post by **Dr. Hobo** » 3/17/2003, 4:44 pm

so just because you dont agree with the views and concepts of someone you can disrespect them? right

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 3/17/2003, 4:45 pm

:::Looks right over dougs post :::: On the View of Iraq, i aggree agian with capo, we will goto war, we should goto war, and we should put our country back in saftey. When we have some1 running around with Weapons of Mass Destruction, we don't need to sit back and say, maybe he does, maybe he doesent.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/17/2003, 4:45 pm

rayden, as if you were ever going to listen to me in the first place.

the android · Post by **the android** » 3/17/2003, 4:46 pm

Rayden, this's all I've heard from you.

"I respect every man, black or white. As long as he's not gay, or a democrat, or fat, or promiscuous."

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/17/2003, 4:47 pm

how's iraq a threat to american safety?

the matrix has you both.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/17/2003, 4:50 pm

Arghh, I guess again I must state what I wrote a bit ago.

Now, Iraq is run by a religious fanatic (source CNN interview) dictator who has armed his country with weapons of mass destruction which noone needs unless they are going to start "blowing shit up" with these weapons of mass destruction (according to chris with my opinion added) he is going to either bomb the shit out of Pakastan, or what I believe israile. (mind the spell errors) Now, Saddam has also committed many war crimes against the Kuatie people, his own people, palastines, and isralies. This we have proof of because it has been ALL OVER THE NEWS. Now, if these are not reasons enough for us to interviene and take saddam out of power useing either peace (which has failed miserably) or military force, or even psyc. warfare.

Like right now, we are using tactics, which have planes flying over saddams troops dropping flyers out of planes saying that saddam is not right, and that the IRAQIS families are starving yet saddam lives and is perfectly fine blah blah blah. If these tatics work then saddams army will be mostly disbanded and he will either deal with them, or flee, or do both. But, if these tatics do not work, America will have to use its military might to push thru saddams forced and take him out of office so innocent people dont get killed by WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

Now you weigh the costs, either we have a war against saddam and bring him out of power, or we let him have his toys and his ways were he will start bombing israiel and palastine.

This is how I view it.

Please dont flame here, if you do differ from opinion, and you can convince me I will surely change my views on this matter, as I said, i'm pratcially always on AIM, so Sign on add me to BL and we can talk, as of now,

HAPPY ST PADDYS DAY, mmm dinner is on the table.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/17/2003, 4:52 pm

P.S.

I cant spell

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 3/17/2003, 4:52 pm

Agian did i say , i hate gays! OH BOY! I HATE GAYS, no i don't think so. I said that i did not accept there lifestyles. that is a clearly different statement.

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 3/17/2003, 4:55 pm

You never know, he could even try it on us.I don't want a nuc hitting my hometown.

Dr. Hobo · Post by **Dr. Hobo** » 3/17/2003, 4:55 pm

who said you hate them? you are the one who keeps bringing it up and who keeps mentioning that you dont hate them...
we only stated youve shown a lot of disrespect for them

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/17/2003, 4:56 pm

capo, america has committed war crimes in the afganhistan campaign. america has weapons of mass destruction. america has funded israels little massacres of the palestinians time and time again.

so far, i see no differences between saddamn and GWB.

I'm not for one second defending Saddam. I am saying that no, he is not a big enough threat to warrant five hundred thousand human deaths.

you are not going to be saving innocent lives with this campaign.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/17/2003, 5:03 pm

Doug Bin Laden wrote:capo, america has committed war crimes in the afganhistan campaign. america has weapons of mass destruction. america has funded israels little massacres of the palestinians time and time again.

so far, i see no differences between saddamn and GWB.

I'm not for one second defending Saddam. I am saying that no, he is not a big enough threat to warrant five hundred thousand human deaths.

you are not going to be saving innocent lives with this campaign.

Welp, I'm not saying that we are perfect little angels now am I?
All I'm saying is that we are getting support from others because that is what they view, he has committed war crimes and other countries want to get even. Bush himself has not signed any documentation (like saddam has) about the executaion of any person using some crude methods of execution without reason (I dont think he has killed anyone)

The US has always had weapons of mass destrucion and mostly always will, but IRAQ arming out of nowhere for no apparent reason seems a little suspicious, so we shoudl stop a problem before it becomes bigger.

And if you are personally offended by us haveing Weapons of mass descruction then you can go to the UN yourself, and tell them that maybe the rest of the world should attack us to get us to disarm.

And also, if you really trust saddam with weapons of mass destruction then that is yoru own opinion, but I think it has been proven he will not disarm peacefully for he believes what he is doing is right based on religion.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/17/2003, 5:04 pm

would you disarm if the only super power in the known world had been openly hostile towards you for the last decade?

and the UN, for the most part, doesn't want a war either.

starvingeyes · Post by **starvingeyes** » 3/17/2003, 5:15 pm

rayden you fucking shitbag, stop wasting the time of those of us whose iq's are in the double digits, get offline and go enlist. you're willing to die for your country? please do. go, go to iraq and maybe if we're lucky you'll get cluster bombed. it's the best you deserve. we really don't have the time, energy, or stomach to deal with people as worthless as you are. moron.

capo - i don't know what i'm talking about? let's review:

Now, Iraq is run by a religious fanatic (source CNN interview) dictator who has armed his country with weapons of mass destruction which noone needs unless they are going to start "blowing shit up" with these weapons of mass destruction (according to chris with my opinion added) he is going to either bomb the shit out of Pakastan, or what I believe israile. (mind the spell errors) Now, Saddam has also committed many war crimes against the Kuatie people, his own people, palastines, and isralies. This we have proof of because it has been ALL OVER THE NEWS. Now, if these are not reasons enough for us to interviene and take saddam out of power useing either peace (which has failed miserably) or military force, or even psyc. warfare.

i debunked all of this already. you are admitting then, that you are a hypocrite and that you support american hypocrisy even in the face of the fact that innocent people are going to die because of it. with all due respect, how do you sleep at night?

America will have to use its military might to push thru saddams forced and take him out of office so innocent people dont get killed by WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

and they intend to do this by? killing innocent people with weapons of mass destruction. justify this logically please.

are you going to try and defend your points, or have you just decided to continue repeating the same propaganda feed over, and over, and over?

areusad831 · Post by **areusad831** » 3/17/2003, 5:15 pm

hmm France, Germany and Russia all dont want war, those are three large countries who realize this is no good. We have Britain on our side because they are our bitch. This war is also not being fully supported by the UN but what the hell the US will just make a new UN.

And as for Rayden, there are not enough words to describe what an ignorant fool you are. Genetics do exist otherwise the human race would not exist and heredity would be non-existent. Since I cant kick the shit out of you since you are saying these things from the saftey of your computer I can say that you will not be allowed on this site if you make any comment similar to the ones you made in this thread. I dont know where the hell you came from but this is an Our Lady Peace message board and as an administrator of this board I am not going to listen to your shit that offends many people. There are no second warnings think before you post here or go find something better to do with your time.

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 3/17/2003, 5:17 pm

Saddam is Being really supicious and if we let him go on, the problem could become worse.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/17/2003, 5:18 pm

But still, the UN doesnt want war, what if war is the only answer, we dont want to take a chance of him blowing up any innocent lives. As americans, we are sure we are not going to use any of our weapons of mass destruction for we have had them for about 50 years if not longer. (making this assumption from history class) But Iraq haveing a war against israile and then all of a sudden arming is a little suspicious, so we are almost positive that he is going to use them against countries he doesnt like. We tried the peacefuly disarming of him for a long time, and as colin powell said, he blew it. He was playing the UN from the start giving only a little bit of his Weapons up for destruction making it look like there was a chance of a peaceful disarming, while he masses his army and got his defences ready.

The fact is, he needs to be taken out of power because his views are dangerous and since we as america have the power to take him out we should.