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Idealist wrote:
Potato Girl wrote:isn't a power chord a 5th?


most of the time yeah :nod:

and to whomever said that the F major barre chord was the easiest barre chord, i can play a lot of chords easier than that one, its definetly not the easiest barre, at least for me...my fingers go in weird directions...try Bm

el---1----l
bl---2----l
gl---3----l
dl---3----l
al---1----l
el---1----l


this is also one of the most popular barre formations, so if you learn that one, you'll learn a lot of barre chords

another suggestion would be to buy a book or two on theory and/or guitar basics especially if you plan on forming a band sooner or later. i think its kinda weird when i see semi-experienced guitar players who don't have a clue as to what chord they're playing. you'll also need it when you read or write music (beyond tab)


LOL. That's a problem I have now. I can play my own stuff, but I dunno how to write it down besides putting standard notation above chord names and strumming pattern at the top. That all takes way too long when ur playing it as it plays in ur head, and trying to write it down;.
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http://paraffinsection.shoegaze.net
(my friends band site ^)
He's the dude with the red hair and beard in the pics. They've got an interesting style. He's a pretty cool guyy.
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you guys put too much effort in to knowing how to play guitar.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
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^ um, what do u mean?
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you're like sevenths this, barre that. theory and whatnot.

i put my effort in to playing. not knowing how to play.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.

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^ yeah, but considering you should really kno what ur doing if u want to read or write music. I like playing and screwing around too, but u can't always do that if ur playing something structured
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Umm, before you comment of Jeff not knowing how to play the guitar again, why don't you listen to one of his mp3's on this site? The kid can play, and play damn well.
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i'm very much capable of playing the kind of music that i want to play. i will continue to grow as a guitar player and my music will grow with me. but i'm happy with the talent i have and for the first time ever, i am feel confident holding my instrument. and i have no idea how to play a seventh chord. oh well.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.

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the musicians whom i admire most are the ones who learn the rules and then break them. i also don't know too many professional musicians who don't know how to write their music down on paper (as in sheet music, not TAB)

there is so much out there for you to learn and use to your advantage...if you're just fucking around that's fine but if not then why not do everything you can to reach your full potential?

just my opinion
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Well, here's how I spent my time with the guitar. I spent oodles of time learning different chords, what they're called, and how to play them. In a week I forgot all their names and found myself using tabs again. That's just easier for me to work with. I find it to be more fun to just jam out on my guitar instead of learning the names of each barre chord. I guess that's just me.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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i'll go back to this again and again. read the alternative press article about alkaline trio. matt skiba does not even know where a c chord is located on the fret board. and look where it got him. that is admirable. it's like the scrawny kid who hits a home run. he doesn't work out everday, he just plays his heart out.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.

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sorry, alkaline trio is punk, doesn't count. :lol:
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i don't get it.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.

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I think it was a shot at how punk is usually just random power chords that happen to sound good together.
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:nod:

Now Jag Tanna THAT'S a guitar player, probably one of the few guys that still plays a guitar like it was meant to be played, the last of a dying breed of true amazing guitar players......well i spose none of you know who is though sorry
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Axtech wrote:I think it was a shot at how punk is usually just random power chords that happen to sound good together.


Now let's stop and think about this. What seems more difficult. Playing power chords or being a pussy and playing in drop D or open G tuning so you hold down two strings to sound like you're playing a barre chord? If you're going to call yourself a technical guitarist, then play the guitar the way it's meant to be. Tuning it some odd way just to make a different sound doesn't make you a good guitarist, it just makes you a pussy.

I'll leave you with this. You people here idolize Steve and Mike Turner, both who use the drop D tuning. Well, Chris Carabba from Dashboard Confessional does the same thing, except he plays faster than Mike Or Steve. So does that make Chris better? There's nothing difficult about taking the half-assed way out to play the guitar. I'd rather be honest and play what I can easily (power chords) than tune my guitar and fake it.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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I hope this is goodbye wrote:Umm, before you comment of Jeff not knowing how to play the guitar again, why don't you listen to one of his mp3's on this site? The kid can play, and play damn well.

I never said that. I just disagree with the belief that it's not imp to have any background music knowledge incorperated in ur playing. I sure as hell never said the kid can't play.
She stands/ in the rain/
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trying to find your sin/
with a shiver and a tear/
it's everything you've feared-
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Idealist wrote:the musicians whom i admire most are the ones who learn the rules and then break them. i also don't know too many professional musicians who don't know how to write their music down on paper (as in sheet music, not TAB)

there is so much out there for you to learn and use to your advantage...if you're just fucking around that's fine but if not then why not do everything you can to reach your full potential?

just my opinion

That's what I was trying to say b4 these people started a freaking riot against me.
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hey. rome wasn't built in a day. it was built on power chords.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.

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InnocentDe wrote:
Idealist wrote:the musicians whom i admire most are the ones who learn the rules and then break them. i also don't know too many professional musicians who don't know how to write their music down on paper (as in sheet music, not TAB)

there is so much out there for you to learn and use to your advantage...if you're just fucking around that's fine but if not then why not do everything you can to reach your full potential?

just my opinion

That's what I was trying to say b4 these people started a freaking riot against me.


Ahem, there was no riot, so shut up. Thanks.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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