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No, she's saying PEOPLE who don't believe in God, not God him/her/itself. As a person who doesn't believe in god, I take offense.

If she had said "Muslims" or "Jews", or really, any other minority, we would all have been disgusted. But atheists, hey, they don't count, we can single them out, right?

It's sickening. I'm not intolerant of her, I'm intolerant of her attitude. It's attitudes like that that keep humanity hating and killing each other.

I don't believe in God and I didn't take offense to that. I suppose I just took the comment a different way than you did. Your anger is understood. Sorry for callin ya out there.

No problem.

I don't think she blamed atheists, she expressed a common religious view: if everyone did believe in God and followed one code of religious ethics or another, people probably would tend to get along better, but unfortunately that's a totalitarian ethic. people are different, so people won't get along. I think that's what she meant. but I don't think she was being intolerant, was she?

Not true. Ever read the Bible? Eye for an eye? Stoning people for the tiniest offense? I don't think the world would be a better place if we all followed those ideals. Ever see godhatesfags.com or godhatesamerica.com ? Those people follow a very strict code of religious ethics, but could you imagine what kind of horrible place the world would be if they ran things?

Despite that, atheists tend to be very moral people, because we feel like we have to prove ourselves to those who think you can only be a good person if you believe in god.

Maybe I overreacted, but I'm sick and tired of hearing that the world would be a better place if people like me didn't exist.

I'm just stating another view Aerin, it's not even mine, I don't mean to offend, I'm just adding this to the gamut for discussion.

I understand. I hope you didn't take my comment as attacking you personally. It's just that all I ever see on the news these days is episodes of hatred and violence, all based on intolerance. It's this idea that, if everyone were just more like US, the world would be better, and if they aren't sufficiently like US, well, we'll just kill them, or assimilate them, or alienate them.

I hate the us vs. them mentality. I hate that people are always seeking to draw lines between people: WE'RE straight, THEY'RE gay, WE'RE Christian, THEY'RE Muslim, WE'RE American, THEY'RE not. And then, ideas are built upon these distinction that WE are somehow better than THEY, that we are somehow more human than anyone else, and that justifies treating them as subhumans.

It makes me sick. Why can't we all just get along?

I agree with you totally. I know people who will say that it is a betrayal of their beliefs to not stand up for them, but I personally think you can have your beliefs and voice them, but you can not take away another person's freedom to choose.

Exactly.

plus if you truly have faith then you don't need to argue with other people about it, if you are maybe that means your secretly doubting.........or you think your better then others which is in direct conflict with most religons

man, why can't we all just be Budhist? Serioulsy they respect other religons and how many ties do you hear about rebel budhist forces making terrorist attacks?

There should be a thread on alienation. Someone start one, I am far too lazy. Feel free to keep posting why you think the world is going down the shitter.

Haven't posted mine yet, so here goes!

1. Government
2. Intolerance
3. Technology
4. Media (not all but some)
5. Just plain old society. Society sucks.

And didn't Jesus say that you should only pray in privacy, that religion was a private matter? I don't understand why people need to be so intrusive and public about their religion. I'm not saying people should hide what they believe, but I don't understand why some people make such a big deal about things like mandatory prayer in public schools, for example. Why aren't they satisfied with praying for themselves? Why do they want to force others to do it, too?

< thinks a thread on religion should also be started. No offence to anyone...but this topic has, well, really gone "off topic." Can we please get back to the real queston? Thank you.

You can't fight the spam!





...sorry.

Damnit. I'll just sulk in some corner of this message board.

Reason #857 that the world is going to hell: Spam.

Yes, I'd have to agree with reason #857. Spam is evil!

lol many of us were chased from the CC by spam natzi's isn't that right lando?

Aerin,

Singling out the Republicans as a reason why the world is coming to an end is definately not creating a "THEY" group huh?

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