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Alan, there are people who go into synagogues and shoot people up in the name of Christ a few times a year at least.
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replace "one nation, under god, indivisible" with "one nation, under canada, over mexico".

It's simple.
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but you should add "... except when the poles shift."
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Aerin wrote:The pledge of allegiance is retarded and should be abolished. I don't pledge allegiance to anything other than myself. I sure as fuck don't pledge my allegiance to the symbol of a country I don't trust and largely disagree with the actions of.



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actually i was referring to all three religons, and there are many christians that still believe killing in the name of god is noble, besides classifing people into groups only cause diffrences to appear, which cause intolerance and hate, you can't deny that organized religon has caused more death and suffering then anything else in our history, and like i said, how is breaking your cardinal sins ok it's in you gods name? i don't think he asked anyoneto start discrimnating, hating, or hurting others. Quite the oppoiste. besides as a person of undecided religon (or at least undefined) i somtimes find it offensive to see over zealous fanatics, acting blindly or hatefully. Ignornace, Hate, Intolerance, Bias, and Inequality are all the anti-thesis of my beliefs. If you ask me if there is a god i think he believes the same thing, and all you fanatics have goneso far into the details, you've forgotton what it's really about. But backto the origanal subject, a simple changing of wording won't hurt anyone, and it will stop those offended or uncomfortable feelings of Non-Christians.
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that's beautiful man. it's like i wanted to say that, except i'm too lazy and i couldn't think of it. awsome. :nod:
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people that say, 'you dont have to say it' are full of it. i was forced to say it. the whole thing, every word and if i didnt, i would get detention. i think under god should be taken out. i do believe in god, but its completely unfair to those who dont. another thing that pisses me off is that gays cant get married but a straight person can. again though, i am straight, so dont give me shit saying, well its b/c you want it for you or something. i dont understand how a government can you tell you cant get married just b/c of your sexual preference. how do they have the right to say you are wrong when it comes to that? i just dont understand it.
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they can't get married in america?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

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Well, first off it depends on the state. But yes, in most states it is not viewed as a legal binding. This does not mean a couple can't go out and still have a marriage. They just won't be placed in the government's "married" bracket. Whether or not that means anything to the individuals, I don't know. There are a few states that do allow for gay marriages, though.
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ic............ :uh: why do they care?
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Oh, I don't know, because they're socially stigmatized and told by the government that they can't marry who they want to marry?

I'd be pissed off too.
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no meant why does the government care?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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old tradition... I foresee things will change
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I hope so. It's all part of the conservative government's trying to impose their arbitrary "morals" on everybody else.
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i'd agree but it seems like every second post i make causes a conservitive to blindly turn on me
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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that's not necessarily true bro..........merely a right to strike of opinion
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i suppose, but there's been a few times when people seemed to have automatically antagonized me, or defended the states or conserivtism blindly
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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and when the liberal government increases social security benefits, are they not forcing their abritrary "morals" on me?
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Clumsyboy wrote:i suppose, but there's been a few times when people seemed to have automatically antagonized me, or defended the states or conserivtism blindly



that's cuz conservitism is "the way" :lol: j/k I'm not THAT shallow
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:lol: if you said that, i would cease talking to you and consider you a lost cause
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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