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haha, right. whatever lets you sleep at night.

starvingeyes wrote:actually i must have errantly deleted a line of text there, that last 2 bits were with respect to our discussion via PMs, both of which you made an early exit from without resolving anything.

trying to hide behind the fact that you are "leaving it up to the piece of shit coward motherfucker" does not change the fact that i was whipping you from pillar to post over a NUMBER of different issues in those same PMs. remember? i was showing you the egregious error of your ways both in how you view me in general and more recently, you locking that thread.

as i recall i had just finished basically leaving you with nothing left to say other than " you're right, i was wrong" when you stopped responding.

clearly your opinion is the only one you will accept. Good job

So, out of curiousity... how is it that nearly everyone replying to your posts is offended, yet we're the ones who supposedly need to change the way we think?

Oh right, those so-called "other messageboards" where you have high and mighty post counts and billions of close friends.

Geez, how could I forget that you're Mr. Popularity everywhere but here??!?

Axtech wrote:haha, right. whatever lets you sleep at night.

prove me wrong?

oh that's right... you can't.

me 1
you 0

interesting that you maintain that i am the one who is incorrect here when you are the one refusing to discuss the matter.

coward.

nikki4982 wrote:So, out of curiousity... how is it that nearly everyone replying to your posts is offended, yet we're the ones who supposedly need to change the way we think?

Oh right, those so-called "other messageboards" where you have high and mighty post counts and billions of close friends.

Geez, how could I forget that you're Mr. Popularity everywhere but here??!?

you're all offended because you have some sort of mysterious, likely years old grudge against me.

and in fact, you'll notice that even on this board i have supporters, most of them amongst the highest quality members. lando, alex, susan, reno etc.

Interesting how you revert to name calling when you run out of argument.

Actually, most of the people who are offended by your return have no idea who you are. Quite a few of them are nominated for "n00b of the year" right this very moment. Try looking at join dates right below a person's userinfo on their posts before making ignorant statements like that.

nikki4982 wrote:Interesting how you revert to name calling when you run out of argument.

i resort to name calling after moderators lock my threads for no reason, edit my posts, and then refuse to defend themselves on it. i can safely assure you that there is not a soul on this message board who can run me out of arguments on anything. i should think that my previous behaviour (see the oskar under my name) and my obviously vast knowledge base would make that self evident.

what was the name i called him again? coward. all i'm trying to do is force him to defend what he's saying. refusing to stand up for what you believe in IS cowardice. while being called a coward may not be nice to hear in this case it CERTAINLY appears to be true.

I have defended myself. Ignoring what I say and claiming that it's not good enough does not equate a lack of reason.

Having a lot to say doesn't mean you're right, by the way.

I honestly don't see how you think Robbo's running away from any argument. He's replied to just about every single one of your ego-driven, ridiculous, out-of-nowhere accusations.

Take a step back, dude. Really. You've got some issues you REALLY need to sort out.

where do you feel i have ignored you?

and i'll agree, having a lot to say doesn't mean you're right. i didn't say i was, just that i had a lot to say.

i am though. hahahaha.

nikki4982 wrote:I honestly don't see how you think Robbo's running away from any argument. He's replied to just about every single one of your ego-driven, ridiculous, out-of-nowhere accusations.

Take a step back, dude. Really. You've got some issues you REALLY need to sort out.

i'm talking about the PM conversations nikki, i already said that in this thread. frankly i'm getting tired of thinking of clever ways to insult you, and since i really do believe you lack the capacity to befriend me in any way because of some internalized issue you have, i have no further interest in talking to you at all. fuck off.

No.

Well, you ignored me every time I asked you to justify intentionally offending others (which was much more in context in our conversations - where you also ignored it - than here, obviously). That was after you asked me to justify censoring you when you were offending others, because to continue offending others after being told that you were offending them would be obvious intent.

rob, in PMs you asked me to justify making intentionally offensive posts - and my friend both the PM and post are timestamped, so i happen to know i hadn't made any freshly offensive posts after reading it. in fact the only "offensive" post i'd made since i got back was the whole series about hitting my chick (she's on the way over, btw and i'm told i've got to give her a good smack when she gets here), all of which were made a DAY before you pm'd me the first time.

anyways, i said:

as far as justifying intentionally offensive posts goes; well, it has been my experience that in the past when making posts of this nature, i usually get a pretty good response.

the only other "offensive" post i made was the NFC joke and i CLEARLY was not trying to offend anybody with that one, in FACT, if you read the thread you'll notice i'd just made a crack that wsa getting positive response. i thought i'd try and keep the ball rolling. unfortunately, YET AGAIN, i underestimated the incredible hypersensitivity of all CM forum members to gender issues.

to stop this from happening in the future, are there any other issues to which you guys are particularlily hypersensitive? just so i can be informed?

Yet you didn't justify it. My point was that in what you called "censoring" you, we were asking you to stop. If you didn't want to be "censored," then you must have some reason that continuing your "censored" behaviour would be the right thing to do. I was asking you to justify continuing. Whether you made offensive posts after that or not is entirely moot.

Though in the past you've been with people who don't find it offensive, it's clear that the people here do. Just conduct yourself with a little tact and respect for others and everything will work out just fine for all involved. If you would rather make posts that people here find offensive, feel free to do it. Just do it somewhere else.

You say you "clearly" weren't trying to offend anyone, yet when people got offended, you got defensive, rather than apologizing.

uh, rob you just said that intent is demonstrated here because i made other "offensive" posts after being told i was offending somebody. if you recall, the one poster with whom i was having the conversation was not indicating that they were offended at all, but actually incredibly trying to counsel me on my "relationship problem" (god bless her!).

that is the only reason i mentioned the fact that i had made no posts after being notified.

as such, since i haven't made any intentionally offensive posts i don't need to justify it. i made some posts which were offensive, that much i guess i cannot debate, but that was not my intention.

and nikki - sorry to burst your bubble but i have apologized MULTIPLE TIMES to all parties affected by both of the posts in question. obviously while you were selectively deleting all positive things about me from your memory that was included. these apologies were made in the threads and are there for your viewing pleasure. i repeat, fuck off. you clearly have some sort of external issue with me and i am not interested in dealing with you. h8r.

starvingeyes wrote:uh, rob you just said that intent is demonstrated here because i made other "offensive" posts after being told i was offending somebody.

No, I said that itent would be demonstrated if you continued to make offensive posts (which seems like the obvious next step after defending yourself against so-called "censorship" ... why would you call it censorship if you agreed that you shouldn't do it?). Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Axtech wrote:Yet you didn't justify it. My point was that in what you called "censoring" you, we were asking you to stop. If you didn't want to be "censored," then you must have some reason that continuing your "censored" behaviour would be the right thing to do. I was asking you to justify continuing. Whether you made offensive posts after that or not is entirely moot.

Good question.

I just have to comment here because I want to get involved but obviously I can't speak for starvingeyes so we'll wait and see his reply.]

And sooner or later I hope this thread will come back to gun control.