Freaking out.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 3/19/2005, 12:50 pm

Exactly Cass. We all have moments where life tries to get the best of us. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. What burns me is when people resort to drinking, cutting, etc to solve their problems. I've seen first hand how things like drinking and self mutilation lead to worse situations and so that's why I'm a strong advocate for finding alternatives to helping yourself that don't involve harming yourself.

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 3/19/2005, 1:11 pm

Pyramanica_Naveedess wrote:
J-Neli wrote:I'm going to leave this thread before I say something that gets me in trouble... do do dooo.

Why would it get you in trouble? I'm just curious now.

After reading the above comment, i'd go with the strong, he's quite the insensitive prick when people do things he doesnt advise. Whether he means to be or not, the way things come out is what matters in the end.

I dont think i'm misinterpreting either. Everything that you say with regards to humanistic problems, whether it be cutting, drinking, freaking out even, is devoid of any emotion and so matter of fact that I wonder if you might be a robot underneath. People cannot live that logically. Everyone makes mistakes.

And yeah, I sometimes freak out, and in my head i'm saying "STOP!!", but I just cant. Luckily not so often anymore, but it still does happen if something sets me off.

Post by **xjsb125** » 3/19/2005, 1:53 pm

Before things turn ugly, please do not make personal attacks at each other. It's not going to help the author of the original post solve anything about her personal issues. If you do feel the need to attack, please do so in private message.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 3/19/2005, 2:01 pm

I don't post as much as I used to but I still lurk around... Anyways, the point is, I'm usually pretty familiar with most of the current threads. And Jim actually does give very good advice. A lot of people do attack him, and it's actually not that fair. I know this because I used to be one of the people that would attack him. The point of the story is, if Jim does give you advice, you'd be smart to take it. Sure, it may not be the advice you want to hear, but he really is doing it to help out. I've gotten to know Jim a bit better over MSN, and he is actually a really nice guy!

Sarah, good luck with whatever is going on right now. I hope everything works out for you!

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 3/19/2005, 2:07 pm

Pyramanica_Naveedess wrote::lol:
Giraffe is rightfully mine since i created the thread, then it goes to al and lando cuz theyre "up there". BUt i'll prolly give it to nikki cuz shes cooler than Al, at least. Lando.. well hes cool but... nikkis pretty damn cool AND nice... welll... hmm.l.. its a tie. Cut the giraffe in two pieces.

I'm sorry.

It'll be painless.

Why thank you! :oops:

*gives to Melissa* :lol:

Rusty wrote:This was before you left me for another. *gives children up for adoption, watches as nikki adopts them* Adopted by a sea monster who already has a million kids of her own.

When on earth did I get a million kids? I really don't understand where this came from... you said it before, too. :Johnathan:

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 3/19/2005, 2:50 pm

Don't worry Matt. There won't be a fight. I know I come across like an emotionless asshole on here.

thanks for the kind words Jon.

The thing that I don't understand is why I get attacked for me not wanting people to hurt themselves. I have never ever said that you can't have bad days, bad times or bad anything, I just want people to try and solve their problems without harming themselves. I didn't know that was a bad thing.

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 3:22 pm

J-Neli wrote:
happeningfish wrote:maybe cause it's all logic and no heart

The thing is I understand the emotional aspect but in a lot of cases there is too much melodrama. In my opinion people, especially teenagers tend to glorify their problems to make them sound like no one else is going through them and that "no one understands me." People would be so much happier I think if they looked at things more logically and rationally. I know that that's a difficult thing to do sometimes when you're at the centre of it all, but I know that if I'm ever in a tough situation I try and step back from it and look at it from a 3rd person perspective. I find that 1. it keeps me sane, 2. I come to understand a lot more about why things happen instead of just focusing on what is actually happening, and 3. I am able to solve things quicker and come to terms with things quicker and easier.

This isn't a post to toot my own horn saying I'm better at handling things than others. It's my opinion that anyone and everyone is strong enough to have a handle on their life. Obviously there are some circumstances you can't control, like someone close you dying or suddenly becoming ill with cancer or another disease. I just have a strong belief that people should try to come up with ways of solving problems better and more efficiently. Cutting and drinking only make things worse, and (remember this is only my opinion, shit on me if you like) should never be an answer to any problem. To me it is selfish and an insult to family and friends that you would rather do harm to yourself than talk to them about any problems.

I know what I just said will piss off some people (as it has in the past). I won't be on much this weekend as I'll be gone away for job interviews so if you're mad and expect a quick response, sorry I can't provide one.

Actually Jim I do agree with you. I can do these things. I;m just really neurotic and although i hate to admit it i AM selfish. I know that cutting and drinking do not solve the problem, they do in fact make it worse. I didnt do anything last night, but i felt a little jittery and thats why i started this thread (not that youre blaming me for anything lol)

I probably come off alot more ... how do i say it.. teenage-selfish-woe is me- than i really am in real life. No, im not in denial, lol

My self online is different than my self in person, i think. I think you understand *or whoever else n stuff*

I dont get angry very easily actually and I am very open to hearing others opinions, facts, or knowledge.

Thank you

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 3:31 pm

Btw Nothing that bad is really going on inmy life im just stressed like everyone else in the world. It's all good, i just kinda wanted to post somethin like this i guess.

Also i have had a lot of friends *13-18 "the teen years"* who were cutters potheads alcoholics etc BECAUSE of their problems, not just cuz they wanted to "have some fun". not that cutting is fun, i meant the booze and all that. ok im talking in circles

but I have seen alot of my psycho friends go down and a few of them at one time pulled me down with them hard core and it got to the point where i broke down and started standing up for myself and kinda givin them the finger yanno. Just not seeing them at all, it did wonders for my health and my life even. I think its possible that im just still not quite "fixed" as much as i want to be and i have my own issues to deal with, and just saying "i have anxiety dis. and ADD and i have a cutting problem thats still recurring now" is too ... textbook i guess? I mean theres a lot more to it, but to be honest.... its bullshit.

I know its bullshit, too. I know that i can "get away" with making all the excuses in the world but in my gut and my heart i know its bullshit and that I can solve things on my own without any of this.

But I am me and I need some "sugar coated" solutions for awhile. from about july-october i was having panic attacks two-three times per day *mostly in october* and it was horrible and i just needed to get out of that cycle for awhile so i could focus on my problems and be CALM enough to handle things in general, so i started paxil in october and im still on it, but i aim to be off it in a year.

Sorry this is getting to be a really long post. lol.

"My Life Story" by Sarah Matt :lol:

Basically i just wanted to say that I know.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 3/19/2005, 4:32 pm

whenever i see yanno i think yannic.
that is all. :lol:

Dr. Hobo · Post by **Dr. Hobo** » 3/19/2005, 4:44 pm

J-Neli wrote: What burns me is when people resort to drinking, cutting, etc to solve their problems. I've seen first hand how things like drinking and self mutilation lead to worse situations and so that's why I'm a strong advocate for finding alternatives to helping yourself that don't involve harming yourself.

when someone is thinking of or does resort to something as serious as that they (usually) arent in a state of mind where they can step back and say "oh shit.. i shouldnt be doing this and should find alternatives to helping myself"... in theory you're right... i feel the same way but having said that however, in theory a lot of things are possible or logical but when it boils down to it in the "heat of the moment" so to speak.. logic/theory/common sense/etc take a backseat to the here and now.

do i like to see my friends suffer? fuck no
can i force them to get help? no, it wont work. all i can do is suggest they get help, eventually theyll realize they need help or that they want to get help and do it but until that time, all you can do is suggest it because if they dont want to be helped they wont get better regardless of how much time they spend going thru therapy or what have you

reza · Post by **reza** » 3/19/2005, 4:53 pm

I spoke to Sarah when she was drunk

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 5:38 pm

HEY! THat was in good fun! I was happy when i drunk dialed you!

Reza is so adorable. I just wanna hug him. :love:

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 5:41 pm

Long Jonny wrote:whenever i see yanno i think yannic.
that is all.

My buddy Dan always, always makes fun of me when i say Yanno.

He says, Yanno. Bono.....

For some reason it just pisses me off to no end, but cant help smiling at him cuz hes such a freak and i :love:

him too!

its4am_isanybodyhome · Post by **its4am_isanybodyhome** » 3/19/2005, 7:02 pm

i freak out all the time. and do things that i regret. i've pretty much stopped cutting, i think. haven't done it for probably over two months, anyway. and yeah. yay professional help and medication! -bounces around-

last year i kind of had these weird...sort of...anxiety attack things where i would just be sitting in class, and start shaking and breathing quickly and getting a tight feeling in my chest. it usually happened over three times a day, and always at school. it was kind of scary.

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 7:12 pm

its4am_isanybodyhome wrote:i freak out all the time. and do things that i regret. i've pretty much stopped cutting, i think. haven't done it for probably over two months, anyway. and yeah. yay professional help and medication! -bounces around-

last year i kind of had these weird...sort of...anxiety attack things where i would just be sitting in class, and start shaking and breathing quickly and getting a tight feeling in my chest. it usually happened over three times a day, and always at school. it was kind of scary.

Yeah, i had those things happen to me too. Weird crap that sometimes when i try to explain it people are like err? what?

I had this fear that i couldnt breathe, and my chest would get all tight.

I used to cut alot when i was 15-16, tried quitting a million times, when i was 18 i accidently cut too deep and left a nasty nasty nasty scar on my shoulder, ugh. Its still pink, that was last may, so wow... almost a year now... anyway, that scared me out of cutting *i felt sick thinking about it* for about 10 months and i started up again in a sense. Sorta.

Cutting is like trying to quit smoking. They are both addictive. Cutting actually does release chemicals in your brain, as well as adrenaline, to produce a calming effect, or an exhilarating effect, depending on the person... So yeah, it is actually somewhat hard to stop.

This site is very graphic so dont visit if you are triggered by these types of things (self injury)

Have you ever visted (a certain website that i edited out)? Just curious. I thought about submitting a picture of my scar that says DONT DO IT... i dont know. That sounds weird saying it out loud but in my head it sounds like a good idea.

its4am_isanybodyhome · Post by **its4am_isanybodyhome** » 3/19/2005, 7:15 pm

visited it, love it. i think i'm going to go there now. thanks. i think it sounds like a good idea too, submitting that picture.

it's weird, i thought i was addicting to cutting, but it wasn't that hard to quit at all. so ....if i really want to quit, i can. and i did. although i almost had a relapse the other day.

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 7:19 pm

Well, thats true....

I guess it all has to do with the willpower of the person in charge.

Many people can quit smoking cold turkey.

Some people need the patch.

I need the patch, ie - i will scratch instead of cut when i dont really want to cause harm, or i draw on myself with a red pen or marker, snap my wrists with rubber bands, hold ice, all that crap thats said to produce some of the same feelings, or remind you not to... etc... ive done all kindsa stuff to remind me, NO....

its4am_isanybodyhome · Post by **its4am_isanybodyhome** » 3/19/2005, 7:21 pm

well i'm not saying that everyone can do it. i know of course, not everyone is the same like that.

it's weird, but i quit smoking cold turkey too.

as well i didn't find the ice thing helpful at all. it's just not the same. although, occasionally i use rubber bands.

Mechanical Thought · Post by **Mechanical Thought** » 3/19/2005, 7:22 pm

J-Neli wrote:Don't worry Matt. There won't be a fight. I know I come across like an emotionless asshole on here.

thanks for the kind words Jon.

The thing that I don't understand is why I get attacked for me not wanting people to hurt themselves. I have never ever said that you can't have bad days, bad times or bad anything, I just want people to try and solve their problems without harming themselves. I didn't know that was a bad thing.

I (quietly) agree with a lot of your advice and opinions on some of the more heavy posts that are put up around here. You are both logical and practical and I find that you think much like me. I'm just more conservative, as you might have gathered.

Either way, my thoughts were eerily close to your original response to this thread ... so ... I guess that makes me an emotionless asshole too.

Pyramanica_Naveedess · Post by **Pyramanica_Naveedess** » 3/19/2005, 7:28 pm

I'll still :love:

you. Even though i don't know you well.