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OLP0120 wrote:Hmmm, maybe it's just me, but I don't think hitting one high note every once in a while (ie, Paper Moon, or Moon Struck One) can really tell us much about how he'll be singing Spiritual Machines songs. I can't really see the parallel between the occasional high note and all out falsetto singing like on the chorus of All My Friends, Blister, Happiness and the Fish, Car Crash, etc. The examples we have of him hitting high notes in the recent days are in a completely different vein than that of Clumsy and Spiritual Machines.


Moon Struck One has a lot of familiar features that bleed nostalgic Raine. I'll agree with you excluding Paper Moon, however.

Once you get to a falsetto, it's quite easy to hold it at that pitch. Just because he hasn't held it for a full verse recently, I think MSO proves he can slide into that falsetto with ease and theoretically he should be able to hold it there just fine.

HOWEVER> In recent years Raine hasn't performed falsetto too well live, IMHO. And this is also considering that MSO is recent.

Go on to the hub, and look through for Car Crash from their last tour and judging by that, it didn't sound to shabby there, then again, that was 4-5 years ago.
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Well, I think he's sort of been on a decline since the Gravity tour as far as singing accurately goes. I had never heard a Story About A Girl live before so I decided to download a live version from the Hub and the vocals were SO off, and the problem there is that song isn't even difficult to sing in comparison to older ones. It's not hard to see the continuing fall from Healthy in Paranoid Times through to Burn Burn. (So Car Crash in 2005/2006 could have been alright.) It's not that it really takes away from the show at all anyhow, because it's tough to care about when you're right in the thick of things. It's just that the recent videos from the Burn Burn touring cycle have sort of just showed bad singing in general. I really believe that he can and will give it his best this time around though. I've never been concerned that he doesn't have the technical ability. I just call his effort into question occasionally. The entire band really seems to be into this thing though, so I don't see it as being a problem. Oh, and of course singing in a studio has never been Raine's problem until Burn Burn.
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I agree with Raine's recent decline in vocal key abilities, and I think it's from a combination of the lower-key singing influence from the Bob Rock years, and the lack of a producer/vocal trainer in the past 5 years. IMO Raine just needs a good refreshing in tone and key. If you listen to recent performances, I hate to say it, but he is wayyy off key and his voice is very unstable.
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Car Crash on the HIPT tour was pretty impressive.
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xjsb125 wrote:Car Crash on the HIPT tour was pretty impressive.


That's what I'm saying, nobody seems to think so or go check it out.
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But it's been noted that Raine's voice seems to have declined remarkably even since then (2005/06)... my theory is the lack of a producer/someone to keep his vocals in check.
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I wonder if they band has ever hinted it... like "Good, good... let's try it in key this time..."

When you're at the shows, you don't notice as much since you're wrapped up in the moment, but when you watch and listen to live performances, you can definitely tell he's not singing with excellent ability.
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I really wish someone trustworthy could have some video of Raine, Jer, Duncan, and Steve playing... you know, Clumsy or Spiritual Machines. Get some reassurance on his voice and get some awesomeness that we haven't heard live in awhile.
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Yeah, I mean... Trusty has published tapes of the guys rolling down hills and going shirtless on passenger airplanes... SURELY he can get us Clumsy and SM practice session footage?! :lol:
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gonna have something special for you guys in the next few days ;)
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Nice. Looking forward to see how it's going.
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so am I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
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Can we get a CM special. Like, only post a link to it here. ha. I wanna feel special.
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awsome I can't wait.
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Trustworthy wrote:gonna have something special for you guys in the next few days ;)


I really hope it is one of them doing the halfpipe..

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you never know
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I really hope it's one of them rehearsing car crash or something like that, or a new song would be cool, but probably wont happen lol.
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you never know x 2
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I want go for you never know x3.

Can we get a video of you in monkey mask rehearshing OLP songs while on skis. . :lol: :lol:

hell if you can do that I give you a gold medal..

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I reloaded the page (.net) enough times for tonight, no video appeared. Thought it'd be like a magic trick . 8-)
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