EVERYONE LISTEN UP !!! YES, THAT MEANS YOU!

ClumsyGirl618 · Post by **ClumsyGirl618** » 12/6/2009, 6:38 pm

Wridsasubway wrote:im so pissed off. this sounds freaking amazing.
damn it!!!! i might have to go to canada...this is too good to pass up.

Where do you live?

DG · Post by DG » 12/6/2009, 6:38 pm

Imagine how some of the lyrics looked on paper:

All My Friends
Written by Raine Maida

Al my frendz
A lone on uh hill?!?1
There jus lookin down
With vilent mindz out on loan!!!!!
They er just not eekuipped

Insestaennce
we hope fo the best
Were not making senz in silanse
Wate for the day wen your better then!!

In this silance I'm not buying
You're not faking!!!!!!1
You're not!!!!!
I guess we better hold on

WrldsaSubway · Post by **WrldsaSubway** » 12/6/2009, 6:40 pm

ClumsyGirl618 wrote:
Wridsasubway wrote:im so pissed off. this sounds freaking amazing.
damn it!!!! i might have to go to canada...this is too good to pass up.

Where do you live?

NY....
although " a few selected U.S dates" theres still a tiny chance lol

Post by **saman** » 12/6/2009, 6:54 pm

!! i need dates and locations!

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 12/6/2009, 7:55 pm

OHIO, for the love of God, OHIO.

WrldsaSubway · Post by **WrldsaSubway** » 12/6/2009, 8:02 pm

MindsOnLoan wrote:OHIO, for the love of God, OHIO.

NY first then Ohio

haha

DG · Post by DG » 12/6/2009, 8:09 pm

MINNESOTA!

Minnesota also hasn't been touched yet. So... we should for sure.

...everyone else is doing it.

Also, I want to know what time the OLP.net thing is at 'morrow, 'cause I work.

Matt. · Post by **Matt.** » 12/6/2009, 8:31 pm

I have not been this excited for something OLP related in what feels like forever. This is actually all I thought about today.

Locobone · Post by **Locobone** » 12/6/2009, 8:37 pm

Wow, this is pretty damn close to my dream scenario I threw out there a few days ago so consider me ecstatic. I'm not fearful at all about Raine's performance (beside his lyric recall). I expect arrangement and vocal changes and I'm okay with that.

Mike Turner? *automatic groan*

Joel? Yes, please.

And if they need someone to sit on stage with a boombox and press play for the Kurzweil bits I volunteer my services.

Illusion · Post by **Illusion** » 12/6/2009, 10:59 pm

emtee would be cool to have, but it would be more just something for the fans...I mean even if he was just on stage for one song...

I truly think that Steve can easily handle anything that Mike did. Steve probably is the more technically gifted guitarist of the two, even if I personally prefer Mike's atmospheric aura a bit more.

My big concern is Raine's voice. Hitting falsetto is not going to be his problem, since he can still do that fairly well. His natural range has been what's shifted downwards so much. I'm really hoping that warming up his voice can fix things...does anybody have a link to his more recent singing after he has done the warmup?

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 12/6/2009, 11:10 pm

Illusion wrote:Steve probably is the more technically gifted guitarist of the two, even if I personally prefer Mike's atmospheric aura a bit more.

I definitely agree here. To me, atmosphere is a lot more important than complexity and solos. Atmosphere makes or breaks a song.

And yeah, Raine could still hit the notes if he put out a consistant effort throughout these shows. I just hope his regular singing voice does well with the songs. While you don't really think about it while at the show because it's an awesome experience, when you watch the videos of concerts it sounds like Raine's constantly singing with a clogged nose and like he has stuff in his throat. Hopefully this new warm-up will help him. While I doubt it will be as strong as his old counter-tenor, I hope it still sounds good.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 12/6/2009, 11:21 pm

Illusion wrote:My big concern is Raine's voice. Hitting falsetto is not going to be his problem, since he can still do that fairly well. His natural range has been what's shifted downwards so much. I'm really hoping that warming up his voice can fix things...does anybody have a link to his more recent singing after he has done the warmup?

Here's a (very excellent HD quality) Youtube video of Raine doing OMA on December 6 (or at least thats when it was uploaded):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJv1uaQaXU

I think OMA is one of the worst songs in their current setlist for him to sing. I hate to sound harsh but it's quite clear that he pretty much talks through the chorus instead of sings, and his voice just sounds like it's about 5 octaves too low and his voice is off-tune and shaky. They really need to drop this from their setlist, I hate to say it but they're ruining the song. People who hear this first live won't go out and buy or download it.

But I think songs from SM and Clumsy that haven't been played since their respective studio releases are bound to have Raine singing more closely to the original falsetto voice, because the original recording is all Raine's heard of the songs in years, so it's going to be his only influence.

MindsOnLoan wrote:
I definitely agree here. To me, atmosphere is a lot more important than complexity and solos. Atmosphere makes or breaks a song.

Exactly. Atmosphere comes first. Steve does amazing solos but when you just tack them on like in Escape Artist and Paper Moon it just doesn't work right

Fabio_kun · Post by **Fabio_kun** » 12/6/2009, 11:34 pm

Talking about Raine's voice.

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5EB5xY ... re=related

It's CRAZY how he's voice has changed since then. I don't know but even back then, I have never heard him singing like he did in this video... his voice sounds awkward.

Fabio_kun · Post by **Fabio_kun** » 12/6/2009, 11:36 pm

And seeing this OMA video makes me sad. They are murdering this song... it sounds horrible =/

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 12/6/2009, 11:37 pm

Fabio_kun wrote:Talking about Raine's voice.

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5EB5xY ... re=related

It's CRAZY how he's voice has changed since then. I don't know but even back then, I have never heard him singing like he did in this video... his voice sounds awkward.

Yeah I've been listening to that video for the past few hours actually. It truly is amazing how much his voice has changed... and when you listen to how dirty and grungy it is in that video you can kinda see how his voice has been wore out over the years. I think that is a huge factor. If I sing that grungy my throat is sore in 5 seconds. But yeah that Let You Down version absolutely blows away the studio version. So much energy.

laurel · Post by **laurel** » 12/6/2009, 11:53 pm

DG wrote:
Fabio_kun wrote:Everyone...
Check Raine's twitter.

I am going to Canada. Without a doubt.

Note: Laurel probably would tweak reading that. "Than" for "Then". Tsk, Tsk, Raine.

YES. THANK YOU.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 12/6/2009, 11:56 pm

LMAO.

Laurel, shouldn't "Saskatchewan" be capitalized in the "location" field in your avatar? Or are you just more of a general grammar Nazi not a capitalization one?

laurel · Post by **laurel** » 12/7/2009, 12:00 am

Please note that my name is not capitalized either.

I don't care about caps. Just spelling and grammar. Not sure why...but caps just aren't an issue to me. And heck, sometimes, I just prefer the look of words when they aren't capitalized! Like my name!

DG · Post by DG » 12/7/2009, 12:09 am

As much as OMA has changed, saying they are ruining it is ridiculous. Yes, Raine sings it much more mellow and low, blah, blah. It's just personal opinion, but OMA is a song that as long as Raine is singing fucking rocks.

Don't jump down my throat yet. I DO PREFER THE ORIGINAL BY A LONG SHOT. But if they drop that song from the setlist I will be quite disappointed. It's one of the songs that makes the band go apeshit in terms of stage present. I absolutly loved seeing it live.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 12/7/2009, 12:13 am

laurel wrote:Please note that my name is not capitalized either.

I don't care about caps. Just spelling and grammar. Not sure why...but caps just aren't an issue to me. And heck, sometimes, I just prefer the look of words when they aren't capitalized! Like my name!

Heh, funny, I'm almost the opposite of that. I can forgive general grammar errors because some people are just unintentionally ignorant of the differences between "than" and "then", etc. But IMO people who don't capitalize words when necessary just give the appearance of laziness. No offense, of course.

LOL

I can see how words sometimes look better when they're not capitalized, though. I mean, look at "iPod"...