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Posted: 5/3/2005, 1:01 am
by starseed_10
fair enough
i need a job, but they ALL suck.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 8:41 am
by Johnny
Thats not right at all. Thats like, below the minimum wage.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 8:52 am
by Axtech
Minimum wage doesn't include tips, since tips are after-the-fact and not a guarantee.. Are you
sure all other restaurants do that? I mean, have you gone around and found out?

Posted: 5/3/2005, 8:54 am
by Johnny
Thats illegal to pay someone that amount of money for work.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 10:25 am
by Joey
Waitresses here don't make under $5.35 .. that's still below minimum wage but that's the standard for waitressing at least where I am. $2.35 is just ... not right. It better be an extremely ritzy restaurant where they know you'll make heaps in tips otherwise you're getting screwed.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 10:38 am
by Random Name
I think when you include bonus and tips it’s over minimum wage, which makes it legal. It’s the same train of thought as commission I think. If someone works on commission and doesn't sell anything, then they don't make anything. Obviously that’s below minimum wage but that is the method of payment nonetheless.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 11:39 am
by Henrietta
Minimum wage doesn't include tips, since tips are after-the-fact and not a guarantee.. Are you sure all other restaurants do that? I mean, have you gone around and found out?
Yeah, I have a lot of friends who have worked in alot of different restaurants. That's how it works. It would be nice if we got at least minimum wage though. That's why you always need to tip well, or else the server gets basically nothing.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 12:12 pm
by nelison
Utah Minimum Wage Law wrote:All private and public adult employees in Utah must be paid a minimum wage of $5.15 per hour.
The minimum wage does not apply to any employee covered by the federal Fair Labor Standards Act or to the following employees: (1) Outside salespersons; (2) Any employee who is a member of the employer's immediate family; (3) Casual and domestic employees; (4) Companionship services for persons who are unable to care for themselves because of age or infirmity; (5) Seasonal employees of nonprofit camping programs, religious or recreation programs, and nonprofit educational and charitable organizations; (6) Persons employed by the U.S. government; (7) Prisoners employed through the penal system; (8) Any worker employed in agriculture if the employee: (a) is principally engaged in the range production of livestock; (b) is employed as a harvest laborer and is paid on a piece-rate basis in an operation that has been and is generally recognized by custom as having been paid on a piece-rate basis in the region of employment; (c) was employed in agriculture less than 13 weeks during the preceding calendar year; or (d) is a retired or semiretired person performing part-time or incidental work as a condition of residence on a farm or ranch; (9) Registered apprentices or students employed by the educational institution in which they are enrolled; (10) Any seasonal hourly workers employed by a seasonal amusement establishment with permanent structures and facilities that: (a) does not operate for more than seven months in a calendar year; or (b) during the preceding calendar year its average receipts for any six months of such year were not more than one-third of its average receipts for the other six months of that year may be paid less than the applicable minimum wage, provided that other direct monetary compensation from tips, incentives, commissions, end-of-season bonus, or other form of pay is sufficient to cause the average hourly rate of total compensation for the season of employees who continue to work to the end of the operating season to equal the applicable minimum wage.
I'm guessing you fall under the bolded part...
As of right now Liquor/restaurant servers make cdn$6.50/hr and this will go up to $6.75 in 2006 and then $6.95 in 2007.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 12:14 pm
by Henrietta
Welcome to Utah...behind in most things!
I do fall under the bolded part. But, it's only for the summer. So technically...I don't know if that counts.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 12:53 pm
by Johnny
I got my angel today.

Posted: 5/3/2005, 1:34 pm
by nikki4982
Angel?
Posted: 5/3/2005, 1:39 pm
by Henrietta
Why can I not download any Rob Thomas songs? It's so weird. Everything else I try to download works, except his stuff.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 1:43 pm
by Johnny
nikki4982 wrote:Angel?
I'll post a picture later.
and
n00bs!
Posted: 5/3/2005, 1:53 pm
by nikki4982
Cass wrote:Why can I not download any Rob Thomas songs? It's so weird. Everything else I try to download works, except his stuff.
What program are you using?
I've been having major problems downloading popular songs on WinMX lately... they'll queue and never start downloading.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 2:25 pm
by Henrietta
WinMX.
Every program I start to use goes south after that.

Posted: 5/3/2005, 2:45 pm
by sandsleeper
i've developped a sex and the city addiction.

Posted: 5/3/2005, 3:33 pm
by nikki4982
Boooooooooooooooooo.
Oh how I hate that show.
And yeah... WinMX is the best program in my opinion to download mp3s, but even it's being a pain now.

Posted: 5/3/2005, 4:33 pm
by Random Name
Oohh. I just heard Sark (the guy in my profile) is going to play Angel in X3.
Posted: 5/3/2005, 4:59 pm
by Johnny
What shall I do tonight?
Posted: 5/3/2005, 7:16 pm
by its4am_isanybodyhome
hey i just remembered that the day after i read a few posts on here about a book called
Lolita...i think that's what it was called, i saw the book on a filing cabinet in my music room, that hadn't been there before. creepy.
i just found out the Val story yesterday...
