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Cracky wrote:The bodies could help it, yes, but on the flipside, would you like the whole world to see your brother or sister being rolled into a mass grave?
personally, it would be selfish to be angry about that. If it meant other lives were saved because my brother was put on television I would be okay with that. Sometimes drastic times call for drastic measures and you cannon be politically correct all the time.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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God, this is horrible. 

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I still disagree with showing footage of bodies being bulldozed. Their simply was no need for that- that is going overboard. The networks should have been more responsible, or CNN at least since they were the ones who showed it.
Like I said earlier, showing dead bodies is one thing- but showing them being treated in such an inhumane way is a little too much.
Like I said earlier, showing dead bodies is one thing- but showing them being treated in such an inhumane way is a little too much.
I'm not sure what was shown in the US, but what I saw on tv was bodies already in the graves but being then being filled in with the bulldozers. It gets the point across without being too much I think. Personally I found it much more upsetting this morning when I opened up my newspaper to find a picture of a beach with a line of bodies all washed up on the high tide line. Not that I think that shouldn't have been published though.
Open your eyes to nights and days, you close them up and float away
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
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Yeah, that's way over the line of decency and respect. Like I said before (I think? If I didn't, I meant to), if this had happened here or in Canada or England or any other country with a similar culture, they'd never ever be showing that stuff. It's like because these people are different from us, they're no longer human and they can show these horrible images on tv. 

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above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
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<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
It's sick. Only way to describe it.
Queens Of The Stone Age-Someone's In The Wolf
Once you're lost in twillights's blue
You don't find your way, the way finds you...
Tempt the fates, beware the smile
It hides all the teeth, my dear,
What's behind them...
So glad you could stay
Forever
He steps between the trees, a crooked man
There's blood on the blade
Don't take his hand
You warm by the firelight, in twilight's blue
Shadows creep & dance the walls
He's creeping too..
So glad you could stay
Forever

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Yeah, its just desensitizing everyone, all over again. What they need to show is people crying out in grief as their loved ones are found dead. If the human side of people dealing with it is shown, there will probably be a bigger appeal, because you can put yourself in their shoes. Imagine if you son was handed to you dead, only 4 years old. Stuff like that works better, and isnt disrespectful to the dead.
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I couldn't agree more.
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<center><img src="../phpBB2/files/squiggle.gif">
<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
Queen of the Harpies <img src="../phpBB2/files/queen_of_harpies.gif" align="texttop"></td><td><font color="orange">President of the Pookie Brigade</font>
"If you put those on the internet, I'll kill you guys!" - Jer</td></tr></table>
<center><img src="../phpBB2/files/squiggle.gif">
<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
Well said.
Queens Of The Stone Age-Someone's In The Wolf
Once you're lost in twillights's blue
You don't find your way, the way finds you...
Tempt the fates, beware the smile
It hides all the teeth, my dear,
What's behind them...
So glad you could stay
Forever
He steps between the trees, a crooked man
There's blood on the blade
Don't take his hand
You warm by the firelight, in twilight's blue
Shadows creep & dance the walls
He's creeping too..
So glad you could stay
Forever

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I totally agree.
Seeing people mourning and screaming for loves ones gets me more emotionally sympathetic than seeing bodies being rolled around like trash. I wish they'd stop doing that.
Seeing people mourning and screaming for loves ones gets me more emotionally sympathetic than seeing bodies being rolled around like trash. I wish they'd stop doing that.

And if I don't make it known that
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~

It looks like they still don't have a realistic number from Burma either. Apparently the military government there has a long history of covering up disasters and this morning they were saying that only 30 people had died while experts are saying they'd expect the numbers there to be about the same as in Thailand (which is well over 2,000). I'd image that since they're trying to cover things up and not asking for aid then it could be even higher than that as people aren't getting the help that they need.
I just feel so helpless. Agghhhhh
Open your eyes to nights and days, you close them up and float away
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
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Soozy,
I don't know about anywhere else but the papers here have been sjhowing the bodies covered up along stretches of beach with some sheets over them or some trucks with the bodies.. The have shown mostly the anguish in people's faces and the horror of the aftermath.
They will never truly know just how many lives were lost cause they say that so many remote islands were wiped off the face of the Earth.. Plus they can't really know how many tourist were in the areas. Bodies will be washing up for weeks.
Things like this do make us feel helpless cause you want to do something, but don't know what. Besides sending money or some other form of help..
IT is times like this that makes you truly realize just how precious life is and how easily it can be taken..
all we can do is pray for those who still suffer from this horror..
I don't know about anywhere else but the papers here have been sjhowing the bodies covered up along stretches of beach with some sheets over them or some trucks with the bodies.. The have shown mostly the anguish in people's faces and the horror of the aftermath.
They will never truly know just how many lives were lost cause they say that so many remote islands were wiped off the face of the Earth.. Plus they can't really know how many tourist were in the areas. Bodies will be washing up for weeks.
Things like this do make us feel helpless cause you want to do something, but don't know what. Besides sending money or some other form of help..
IT is times like this that makes you truly realize just how precious life is and how easily it can be taken..
all we can do is pray for those who still suffer from this horror..
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I think showing bulldozers is a bit far, but showing bodies or rows of coffins is necessary to display the significance of the event.
Some stations are reporting 125,000 right now. Its hard to say where this toll will stop as there is still a lot of debris and some remote areas that may not have been reached yet by aid workers. It really makes you realize how petty some of our problems really are.
Some stations are reporting 125,000 right now. Its hard to say where this toll will stop as there is still a lot of debris and some remote areas that may not have been reached yet by aid workers. It really makes you realize how petty some of our problems really are.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
J-Neli wrote:It really makes you realize how petty some of our problems really are.

There was a guy in my newspaper today who came over here from I think Sri Lanka to make a new life for himself and support his family and it looks like all of the rest of his family and his wife's family have died - which is about 200 people!

Last edited by Soozy on 12/30/2004, 1:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Open your eyes to nights and days, you close them up and float away
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.