Is he better than Mike Turner? If so, how? Better than RAge's guitarist or the Edge? I thought Jack seems to plod along with simple rythyms....never really caught me ear. I've heard he's a very good guitarist, but no one has really convinced me of what to look for that makes him great. And after hearing his voice maybe he should stick to guitar.
Meg's showcasing of old drumming is just flat out boring. I can play her beats in my head if I want to. I'm not saying it doesn't suit the music. it does in its simple way........its just not good........at all.
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Sine wrote:Anyone better than Mike Turner? BLASPHEMY!
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What makes Mike Turner better? His occasional pluck of the string? His completely boring demeanor? The fact that he played riffs that weren't that complicated? What is it? He can't do anything I can't, so does that make me as good as Mike Turner?
How about this Matt. We can have a conversation about drumming when you start playing the drums. Then we can really get into it when super-complex beats that defeat the purpose of the drums (to keep a rhythm) make you rich. When you become an international celebrity because you're amazing on the drums, I will take your arguments seriously.
Until then, I can't see your point. If all the band needs is a simple rhythm, then that's good for them. If a simplistic drum beat helps make you an international celebrity, well-to-do for life, and insanely popular, then why do something different?
Here's what I'm saying. Look at Jeremy Taggart back before Gravity. Listen to all those fills he played, listen to all the jazz influences, and listen to how technical each rhythm is used. Then think about how little success he had outside of Canada.
Then when he became the equivalent of a beginner on drums, look at the success the band gained. OLP finally had their first top 40 hit in America, received major airplay on the radio, and were on MTV the entire summer.
Think about it. People don't want to hear what is impossible to listen to. If they wanted that, they would listen to art rock or something like that.
How about this Matt. We can have a conversation about drumming when you start playing the drums. Then we can really get into it when super-complex beats that defeat the purpose of the drums (to keep a rhythm) make you rich. When you become an international celebrity because you're amazing on the drums, I will take your arguments seriously.
Until then, I can't see your point. If all the band needs is a simple rhythm, then that's good for them. If a simplistic drum beat helps make you an international celebrity, well-to-do for life, and insanely popular, then why do something different?
Here's what I'm saying. Look at Jeremy Taggart back before Gravity. Listen to all those fills he played, listen to all the jazz influences, and listen to how technical each rhythm is used. Then think about how little success he had outside of Canada.
Then when he became the equivalent of a beginner on drums, look at the success the band gained. OLP finally had their first top 40 hit in America, received major airplay on the radio, and were on MTV the entire summer.
Think about it. People don't want to hear what is impossible to listen to. If they wanted that, they would listen to art rock or something like that.
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Well, I at least am qualified to discuss drums. I'm under the impression that Clumsy had some amount of success in the US, and it also had some amazing and complex drum parts. I don't think it ever hurts to keep things interesting. I mean, wouldn't it be nice if Meg were a better drummer? Wouldn't it be nice if Jeremy stopped dumbing down his drumming?
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it woudl be awesome is Jer stopped dumbing down his druming. But that's because that's who OLP are. The White Stripes werenever trying to be anything like that.
Now i get the impression that Raine wants olp to be a Canadian U2. Which great, but it's never been OLP's strong point, OLP were strongest when they were doing alternative music.
Now i get the impression that Raine wants olp to be a Canadian U2. Which great, but it's never been OLP's strong point, OLP were strongest when they were doing alternative music.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
your right. But olp were doing a damn good job at being olp before now.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
I AM ME wrote:your right. But olp were doing a damn good job at being olp before now.
why cant they make good ol music like they used to 
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I like their newer stuff, Gravity, I really liked that album.
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You don't find your way, the way finds you...
Tempt the fates, beware the smile
It hides all the teeth, my dear,
What's behind them...
So glad you could stay
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<----------------- click and listen!meh, i dont even count gravity as one of their albums.
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How can you not? I loved Gravity.
Queens Of The Stone Age-Someone's In The Wolf
Once you're lost in twillights's blue
You don't find your way, the way finds you...
Tempt the fates, beware the smile
It hides all the teeth, my dear,
What's behind them...
So glad you could stay
Forever
He steps between the trees, a crooked man
There's blood on the blade
Don't take his hand
You warm by the firelight, in twilight's blue
Shadows creep & dance the walls
He's creeping too..
So glad you could stay
Forever
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
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Surfjan, don't associate how good someone is with popularity...if Meg played with OLP and Jeremy played with the Stripes, do you really think Meg could keep up (or would she increase their popularity??).......while jeremy would have no problem with any songs, and could probably help with some creativity.
Simplicity is some forms makes for excellent songs. The Beatles excelled at this. I'm not saying complication is always better. I never disagreed with this so don't make offhand assumptions.
And don't write off people's arguement because they don't play drums and aren't successful musicians. That's just a damn weak minded thing to say.
Simplicity is some forms makes for excellent songs. The Beatles excelled at this. I'm not saying complication is always better. I never disagreed with this so don't make offhand assumptions.
And don't write off people's arguement because they don't play drums and aren't successful musicians. That's just a damn weak minded thing to say.