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Oh, and I love the cover design. When I first saw the picture, I thought "shit man, that's some awesome graphic design right there". Then, when I got it and flipped it over, I saw that it was actually a picture taken. Man, that's fucking cool. Even now it looks too cool to be a real picture.

Ripped, and just listened to the first track.

Just wait until the surprise at the end.

It's like an instense orgy of fan service.

It won't be much of a surprise, since I already know about it. haha

It was a B Side from one of the singles on the first album, right?

Dammit. I'm listening to the full album for the first time right now. I've noticed a big rush of static in the middle of Freedom Fighters, and at the start of Bleed From Within. Maybe Copy Controlled has more on me than I thought. I'll have to re-rip some of the album later.

Just finished the album.

Damn, this is amazing.

Now I have to re-rip Freedom Fighters, Bleed From Within and Fight the Feeling.

joe_canadian wrote::drool:

Just wait until the surprise at the end.

It's like an instense orgy of fan service.

Yeah that's "The Walls Get Smaller" it's been out for awhile, i think it's a bit diffrent though on the album.

So far it's really growing on me, Nutter is a really talented guitarist. and Rob really reminds me of Perry Farrel (Janes Addiction, Porno for Pyro's, Perry Farrel). In a ton of places actually, but it's not enough to be a rip off or anything.

I saw these guys open for incubus too except it was in Dekalb, Illinois. I'm sorry to disagree with you guys but from what I saw I didn't really enjoy them. And just about every other person who I've talked to who was at the concert too said they didn't like them either because all their songs sounded the same. The first song they played sounded good and like you guys said, the drumming was good. But then they played the next song and the drumming was just about identical. The singer was pretty cool though. He humped the microphone stand in one of the songs and then he startin doing some cool dance moves. Oh and I forgot, the guitarist looks just like one of my friends. When they were playing I could've sworn it was my friend on stage.

i heard they put on a really good show. But who knows it depends when you saw them too. Last album they were kids fresh out of highschool i believe.


I think it's onje ofthose bands where there's a lot of pure entertainment value from just the singer. Ex. The Vines, Billy Talent. After all no ones at a Vines concert to to hear his stellar singing voice.

In other Vines news, turns out it;s not just the drugs, he actually is crazy. Some form of mild, reactionary autism.

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joe_canadian wrote::drool:

Just wait until the surprise at the end.

It's like an instense orgy of fan service.

Yeah that's "The Walls Get Smaller" it's been out for awhile, i think it's a bit diffrent though on the album.
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Hence the "intense orgy of fan service" part.

Ah gotcha

i listened to it today and realized it's still pretty diffrent the the original one though.

Yeah, the original's better.

The new version's got some really really slick production on it, but it lost the original's intesity, which is the whole reason it's awesome in the first place.

i was going to say that too, it's still awesome, but the asian wind inrtumentation and strings and such took away some of teh intensity of teh original building wave of force. It's kinda over produced

I'm just so hooked on "Breakin'", got to download some more tracks to see if the new album is worth it to buy.

It is very worth buying.

The first album, too.

i was going to buy it today.

but i bought other cds instead...cause i've only heard one song by them. and i didn't like it.

Thanks for your post.

haha, then why were you going to buy it?

no problem.

but really, i would listen to other stuff by them, but my downloading software sucks. and i'm lazy.

Axtech wrote:haha, then why were you going to buy it?

cause it was on sale. silly.