Cass wrote:Nah, it doesn't have to be good to be big in the US. Believe me.
Oh how true. *sigh*
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I don't think they just mean vocals, guitar, drums, bass. I think they mean more of the concept of the album. Hopefully they mean that the lyrics are more complex (we have heard that Raine was mad at Rock for making him dumb down his lyrics). As for what could be made simpler... i had no idea that anything from Gravity could become more simple than what it already is.
THERE'S TOO MANY OF US THAT DON'T WANT TO FIGHT IT
"Simpler" overall, as compared to the rest of their career.
"More complex" more recently, like they're stepping it up a notch from Gravity with better lyrics, more complex instruments, etc.
-Sarah
Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
from the first post in this thread and from when I saw the band(according to Raine) they are aiming for a March release. 3 months doesn't sound too off.
As for being #1(EGOTIST) in the States. I am sorry to say that I think that OLP will never really truly have the success down here as they do in Canada. I thought for sure Gravity would go Platinum here(1million sold) for no other reason then Bob producing it and it had a more commerical rock sound. Yet it only went Gold(as did Clumsy in 97'). I truly love to see OLP have the success down here in the USA, but the sad truth is some markets just won't touch them-which bothers me. I live in the NYC area and be damned if you hear OLP on the radio here. Sure SOT was played because it made all charts(modern rock, pop, adult, top 40) Yet I never heard Innocent down here, and forget Made of Steel. I swear the so-called modern rock/rock station down here avoids playing OLP like the black plaque. Weirdest thing is they do have CLUMSY somewhere buried in the Stations library. They sponsored a show of theirs in 1997. Also the other day while listening to the morning show they played afew guitar chords of a song while going into commerical (which they always do). The song was SHAKING, so how come they never play the band. A bunch of the dj's I spoke to at the staion like OLP-yet never play them on their shows. The other stations down here won't play them till they have another hit. Which they may or maynot ever have again.
I don't know about where other people live, but where I live OLP have made it on Word of Mouth more then anything. I have seen the fanbase grow over the last 3-4 years.
I only hope that some of the songs were heard over the summer make it to the new CD.
BTW, When I spoke to Raine in September he said this in no way will be a Gravity2, but different. He said they were trying for an early U2 sound. I said to him Naveed sounded like U2-so if it is like that then it would be cool. If you really listen to Naveed it had so a raw rock sound. They sort of mellowed after that. I know OLP have it in them to be a rock band. Hopefully this CD they will accomplish that.
I feel love, I feel a power. It comes to me in the darkest hour. And I want to feel it again Teach the young people how to think, not what to think-Sidney Sugarman
"When looking up there, I just felt whole, like I belonged. Like one day I too would shine my most brilliant. Sitting there also made me think about sitting through services at my little country church back home. About that never-changing congregation of the same sixty-seven people and everyone has known you since before you were born. Now, out here in the real world, everything just seemed more vivid than when I used to sit in that little pew. That pew that was now so, so far away from where I was. I feared I had somehow left God behind there, too. I feared he was somehow just sitting there, saving my seat on the fifth pew from the front row, just waiting on me to come back. I left so quickly, I worried that he may not have noticed I was gone. And, now, I’m just too far away to find. So he’s just sitting there, patiently waiting on me to come back. I closed my eyes and prayed a moment. I hoped more than anything that he could still hear me." -an excerpt from my novella, A Sea of Fallen Leaves.
Steve on the guitars will be really something to look forward to a think. I thought the guitarwork is really really well done in "No Warning" and especially, ESPECIALLY, the work in the song they were playing in number 2 of the in-studio videos.
The reason I think this band can hit #1, is because there is a pretty big American buzz on OLP these days. If Sony US decides to jump on this (and why wouldn't they? - their modern rock roster is pretty thin and see the BMG merger post), OLP could finally hit it.
It really depends on what Bob Rock has coaxed out of them though. They need another superhit. I'm pretty sure with the bandmembers getting old, that this will be one of the last OLP albums though (I'm thinking one or two more after this).
I think where I live people are ready to embrace OLP if they come out with something really awesome. I hear SD everyday on the radio, our local station has sponsored them at our big ass show for three different years. If they can come out w/ something good, I think they could have a big following down here.
I don't know the age of all the members... but i don't know...
Once they break up its going to just be so weird. I mean it will just feel so weird to me. I myself have never gone through a favorite band calling it quits.
I think i could see the guys sticking together for a while. But then again, i guess it wouldn't come as such a huge shock if they too an extended break for a while...
But i truly could not imagine them breaking up. It will be such a sad day.
There is something that does kind of help us out. I mean the guys keep on saying that the live cd was a close to a chapter. Don't you think they will keep this chapter open for a little while.
God damn... now i am so depressed. They can't break up!
THERE'S TOO MANY OF US THAT DON'T WANT TO FIGHT IT
egotist wrote: It really depends on what Bob Rock has coaxed out of them though. They need another superhit. I'm pretty sure with the bandmembers getting old, that this will be one of the last OLP albums though (I'm thinking one or two more after this).
what would age really have to do with anything? Lots of bands are older then OLP. By getting OLD, I would assume you mean Raine and Duncan. Gee, if mid-30's is old, I really feel sorry for anyone over the age of 35 putting out music. I think OLP will put out music as long as it is revelant to them and doesn't go stale. Just because they aren't huge outside of Canada doesn't means their careers are over.
BTW, one of the other bands you meantioned in another thread Duran Duran are all in their early to mid 40's and they are still around. YOu can't get tickets to their shows cause the demand is so high. The Offspring are releasing a new CD and they are in their late 30's/just about 40 years old. Metallica are all 40 years old now. The list goes on. Raine and Duncan are by no means old.
I am not being mean back to you so please don't take it as that. It just sort of gets to me when people call Raine and Duncan old because they are older then Jeremy and Steve. My friend and I break it up like this. Raine and Duncan are the older settles ones with wives and kids and Jeremy and Steve are the single ones. I don't think it would really effect the music much. Maybe outside of OLP they may not have much in common, but i think the band is a 4 member effort. Most would disagree with me. I know Raine has a a bit more say since he writes the lyrics, but the others seem to be okay with that so why should we really care one way or other.
I feel love, I feel a power. It comes to me in the darkest hour. And I want to feel it again Teach the young people how to think, not what to think-Sidney Sugarman
It's just that I think it might be a little hard for new audiences to accept a grown man with a wife and kids emoting about how he's not "made of steel", "innocent" or how he needs "a new tattoo, alot more sex."
Ok.
That was downright cynical of me.
Anyway, "old" compared to the bands you've mentioned is unfair. Yet take note, OLP are not Duran Duran or the Offspring (who are inching closer and closer to becoming the Weird Al Yankovics of punk rock).
Perhaps "more mature", is a better way to describe this band. They each seem to have shifting priorities. Raine is obviously grooming himself for life after OLP as a record exec (with a label, a producer ala Kroeger). Duncan just had twins, how long do you think his wife will want him out on the road? Steve is a former studio musician, and Jeremy could easily build himself a nice career doing the same thing.
So while they aren't Rolling Stones old, I don't expect them to do this forever or even much longer.
OMG...i don't even want to think of the boys breaking up!! that would be a major bad thing in my world!!
new album march 19th...
and i'm supposed to bestrong & have all the answers... a cannibal in the new church of cancer ... but i'm nothing special i'm not unique ... i have many secrets& i eat the weak... and i'm at an end ... i'm at an end... and there's ... NO WAY OUT!!
i need to find mysanctuary ..... someplace safe ... gotta get this outta me ..... this is myescape
egotist wrote:... the Offspring (who are inching closer and closer to becoming the Weird Al Yankovics of punk rock).
It's so funny you say that, cos I heard their newest single on the radio tonight for the first time... and at first, I seriously thought it was Weird Al.
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Queen of the Harpies <img src="../phpBB2/files/queen_of_harpies.gif" align="texttop"></td><td><font color="orange">President of the Pookie Brigade</font> "If you put those on the internet, I'll kill you guys!" - Jer</td></tr></table>
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<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
thirdhour wrote:No, it doesn't have to be good, in fact, quite the opposite. Just HUGE. Look at Nickelback. If it wasnt for How you Remind Me, no one would of heard of them.
God don't ever let OLP release a single like "How You Remind Me" I'd end up hating my favorite band because I have to hear there stupid song on the radio 5 times a day for 3 years straight. I'm from the states I don't want OLP to get any bigger. It just means more teeny-bopper fans (ie 13 year old girls that only know the words to SOT)
I don't want OLP to become huge like Linkin Park and those types of bands, it's not who they are. They're a band to plays to a specific fan group, a fan group that respects all there music, not just the stuff that gets played on the radio. And I hope it stays this way. God help us all if they release a single like "How you remind me"