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Posted: 11/1/2003, 6:28 pm
by I AM ME
you have no comment on the other thing i said?
Posted: 11/3/2003, 12:36 pm
by Venom
they basically proved that anyone can do anything they want with no consequences. And Venom, i assume your not disgusted by the manipuation of the american public? Being such a patriot, i would have thought you would take offence to your fellow citizens being mislead and grossly misinformed
Until I know whos fault it was I have no comment other than EVERY country in the UN thought that Iraq still had WMD. Why would anyone think that they destroyed them on thier own. Who knows what happened to them. They could be in Syria for all we know and there is some evidence that that is what happened. I don't have an opinion on it till I see more, however things HAVE been found that point more to a WMD program than against it. Just look at David Kay's report (the part that has been publicized). The intelligence aspect of it is most likely the CIA's and British intelligence's fault. They stand by their intelligence. I highly doubt the administrations of both countries made it all up. Like I said I will hold my decisions until there is evidence one way or another. I would like to add that I am disgusted at the way the majority of the media portrys what is going on. There is more good than bad going on and you never hear that. THAT is misleading Americans.
Posted: 11/3/2003, 10:22 pm
by I AM ME
actually iwas referring to how the vast majority of americans were made to believe that Sadam had a direct link to 911. Infact many american's now believe it was iraq. This doesn't disturb you? As evil as saddam was, i'm not going to dispute he wasn't because he was, chances are he didn't have WMD and even if he did have a part it wasn't a direct part, only a consequence of his funding.
What if a plane crashed the pentagon and had 15 out of 19 north koreans on it? or 15/19 syrians, would we not consider to be under attack from NC or Syria? But for some reason we didn't suspect the saudi's of involvement?
Posted: 11/4/2003, 7:19 am
by Venom
actually iwas referring to how the vast majority of americans were made to believe that Sadam had a direct link to 911. Infact many american's now believe it was iraq. This doesn't disturb you? As evil as saddam was, i'm not going to dispute he wasn't because he was, chances are he didn't have WMD and even if he did have a part it wasn't a direct part, only a consequence of his funding.
Where are you getting you information that people were led to believe Saddam was directly linked to 9.11? I have never heard anyone say that Saddam was behind 9/11. Some Americans may believe he had ties to Al Qaeda which may be true, but anyone that is informed doesn't think that he was behind the attacks. The more disturbing thing in your post is that you say people were "led" to believe this? I challenge you to show me where the US government said that he was behind the attacks! Please enlighten me, because I read about 10 newspapers, and watch 5 different news channels a day and have never seen the government say Saddam was "directly related" to 9.11.
or 15/19 syrians, would we not consider to be under attack from NC or Syria?
North Carolina?

Posted: 11/4/2003, 11:25 am
by Corey
I always knew those North Carolinians were up to something!!

Posted: 11/4/2003, 7:41 pm
by I AM ME

ok i admit that was a botch i meant NK
Posted: 11/5/2003, 6:51 am
by Venom
The more disturbing thing in your post is that you say people were "led" to believe this? I challenge you to show me where the US government said that he was behind the attacks! Please enlighten me, because I read about 10 newspapers, and watch 5 different news channels a day and have never seen the government say Saddam was "directly related" to 9.11.
Are you gonna back up your claim?? Just admit that nothing like that was ever said and we'll move on. The administration has actually said the totally opposite of what you claim. They have made it clear that there is no connection between Saddam and 9.11.
Posted: 11/5/2003, 10:12 am
by doug
i guess one of those papers isn't the
New York Times.
I know you will say that your american government didn't actually
say that saddam was behind the attacks, but in this article and severl others like it, they dropped his name like it was going out of style.
how come so many americans believe he was involved? did they think it up on their own?
Posted: 11/5/2003, 12:12 pm
by Venom
Administration officials say there is still no evidence to link Mr. Hussein directly to the attacks on Sept. 11 in the United States.
So AGAIN I challenge someone to show me where the administration said that Saddam was directly involved with 9.11!! Spin it anyway you want to Doug IT WAS NEVER SAID!! Clumsyboy said
actually iwas referring to how the vast majority of americans were made to believe that Sadam had a direct link to 911.
If some Americans want to believe that he was then they're wrong, but they were not told this by the administration! Admit your wrong and move on. Your statement has NO validity!
I know you will say that your american government didn't actually say that saddam was behind the attacks, but in this article and severl others like it, they dropped his name like it was going out of style.
You knew I would say so because its FACT!
Posted: 11/5/2003, 12:46 pm
by doug
FACT it may be but only because your government was using DOUBLESPEAK!
"there is 'bulletproof' evidence, but no pictures, there may be a link between 9/11 and Iraq... we cannot confirm.. blah blah blah"
they wanted people to believe that there was a link. that's why so many half-claims were made.
Posted: 11/5/2003, 12:49 pm
by I AM ME
it was their intention to lead the less informed citizens to this conclusion without ever saying it out right