Is this really the end?
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Candy-coated Fake
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I do agree with experimentation. There's nothing wrong with that. The problem for me is mostly with the lyrics. I love the music they're making, but the lyrics are far too simple for my liking. Compare:
"There's a cigarette thief stealing cigarette disease...I wish I was there."
to
"Tina's losing faith in what she knows...in her musical tastes and all her clothes."
The first one makes you wonder. The second one is so straight forward that anyone can understand it. I know that's what they were wanting to do (have simplified lyrics) but it just seems to me that the lyrics have lost that spark, the spark that made me always think "what the fuck is Raine talking about?" I like being able to interpret the lyrics my own way instead of having them so straight forward.
Yes, that ramble may have seemed pointless (and very badly written) but it's how I feel.
"There's a cigarette thief stealing cigarette disease...I wish I was there."
to
"Tina's losing faith in what she knows...in her musical tastes and all her clothes."
The first one makes you wonder. The second one is so straight forward that anyone can understand it. I know that's what they were wanting to do (have simplified lyrics) but it just seems to me that the lyrics have lost that spark, the spark that made me always think "what the fuck is Raine talking about?" I like being able to interpret the lyrics my own way instead of having them so straight forward.
Yes, that ramble may have seemed pointless (and very badly written) but it's how I feel.
umm... isn't it
Oh, and Tina losing faith in what she knows
Hates her music, hates all of her clothes
Oh, and Tina losing faith in what she knows
Hates her music, hates all of her clothes
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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Sufjan Stevens
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actually I didn't even realize it was herI can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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Candy-coated Fake
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OLD OLP...no question
ugh, that kinda annoys me. Raine says it like it's a good thing, i personally don't think it is...songs need substance. sure there are some amazing songs that have taken very little time to write (see: 4am) but not all songs can be that way! it shows how simplistic it's all become...
however, I still remain a huge OLP fan and will continue to be one...the new songs sound really good, and much better than Gravity..the lyrics still aren't the way they used to be, but i guess i'll just have to get over it *sigh*.. but i can't deny that i'm really looking forward to the 6th album
RollingStone wrote:"We write songs in like five minutes now," Maida says.
ugh, that kinda annoys me. Raine says it like it's a good thing, i personally don't think it is...songs need substance. sure there are some amazing songs that have taken very little time to write (see: 4am) but not all songs can be that way! it shows how simplistic it's all become...
however, I still remain a huge OLP fan and will continue to be one...the new songs sound really good, and much better than Gravity..the lyrics still aren't the way they used to be, but i guess i'll just have to get over it *sigh*.. but i can't deny that i'm really looking forward to the 6th album
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ya and he might have been exaggerating...
compared to past albums where it took them days to do a song it must seem like they're popping them out like mad right now
compared to past albums where it took them days to do a song it must seem like they're popping them out like mad right now
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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candy-coated_fake wrote:I do agree with experimentation. There's nothing wrong with that. The problem for me is mostly with the lyrics. I love the music they're making, but the lyrics are far too simple for my liking.
Whats wrong with simple lyrics? Lyrics don't have to be complex to be good.
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But complex lyrics are often much more interesting...
You can listen to them more than once and interpret them in your own way, but simple lyrics are usually just there, plain as daylight, leaving little room for interpretation
but notice the words "often" and "usually"...
Edit: starseed_10 outposted me
You can listen to them more than once and interpret them in your own way, but simple lyrics are usually just there, plain as daylight, leaving little room for interpretation
but notice the words "often" and "usually"...
Edit: starseed_10 outposted me
i wonder what Naveed and Clumsy era olp would say if they heard the "new" olp? didn't raine once say "you got to be careful in this business, you come in as a artist and if you don't keep it pure you might end up an entertainer" i fear everyday olp have lost that inner fire What happened to the band that had the balls to go in front of the biggest show on earth (woodstock), full of ppl that have no idea who you are and play almost all of happiness? Brand new no singles, nothing....... i know they've been playing new stuff alot but nothing as risky as that, hell i don't think olp does anything risky anymore......i miss it, i want to have a cd with something totally out there like Under Zenith or Car Crash.....but i don't think that will ever happen again, hell gravitt'smost "risky" song is BBTS and hell that's barely more risky then 4am, would olp ever release a single like " The birdman" or "carnival" now? i doubt it
What happened to the band that had the balls to go in front of the biggest show on earth (woodstock), full of ppl that have no idea who you are and play almost all of happiness? Brand new no singles, nothing....... i know they've been playing new stuff alot but nothing as risky as that, hell i don't think olp does anything risky anymore......i miss it, i want to have a cd with something totally out there like Under Zenith or Car Crash.....but i don't think that will ever happen again, hell gravitt'smost "risky" song is BBTS and hell that's barely more risky then 4am, would olp ever release a single like " The birdman" or "carnival" now? i doubt it "How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
Clumsyboy wrote: What happened to the band that had the balls to go in front of the biggest show on earth (woodstock), full of ppl that have no idea who you are and play almost all of happiness? Brand new no singles, nothing....... i know they've been playing new stuff alot but nothing as risky as that, hell i don't think olp does anything risky anymore.......
They played singles at woodstock...
SETLIST
Naveed
One Man Army
Superman's Dead
Is Anybody Home?
Potato Girl
Blister
Waited
Happiness and the Fish
Carnival
Clumsy
Starseed
I agree though that it was risky to play half a set of new songs. They did play Not Afraid at the junos which was kinda risky cause they even were announced as playing their hit single "Innocent". Really they haven't had a chance to do that again. How often does a band get to play in front of 200,000 ppl? most bands don't even play to that many ppl in their entire career.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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Raine baffles me sometimes. He hates the ideology of America, but yet is trying to grab more of an AMerican audience by dumbing down the lyrics and trying to sound like all the other "american" rock bands. I don't get it. The old OLP rocks and they never should have simplified thier lyrics. Its what made them great.