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Posted: 6/28/2003, 12:39 pm
by its4am_isanybodyhome
this is a piece of shit
Posted: 6/28/2003, 5:17 pm
by Henrietta
Yet another reason I wish I was Canadian.
Posted: 6/28/2003, 7:23 pm
by Johnny
That dude needs to remove that 2x4 from his rear
Posted: 6/28/2003, 8:09 pm
by Henrietta
What dude?
Posted: 6/28/2003, 9:09 pm
by Lando
People will find ways around it. Different programs, zipping files to give them different extensions or even tags. The hackers will always be one step ahead of the authorities...
Posted: 6/29/2003, 7:51 am
by Neil
Orrin Hatch should've died......it wasn't Strom's time!
That's freakin crazy, I didn't even hear about this until I just read that newswire. That's fucked up, seriously.
Posted: 6/29/2003, 10:30 am
by Henrietta
I'm ashamed of that man.
Posted: 7/1/2003, 7:21 am
by buzhwa
Lando wrote:People will find ways around it. Different programs, zipping files to give them different extensions or even tags. The hackers will always be one step ahead of the authorities...
Exactly. I just don't get what the government thinks it's going to accomplish with any attack on P2P programs. The Internet is all about the sharing of information, so how are they ever going to limit the transfer of MP3s? With their logic, you'll have to sue all the instant-messenger programs that have a "Get File" option. Also, even if they do happen to view all the MP3s on your computer, there's no way they can tell which ones you've downloaded or which tracks you might have just ripped from a CD that you own. In my view, the RIAA had this coming - they charge us $15 for a piece of plastic that costs like a nickel to make, and this is their payback.
Posted: 7/1/2003, 7:24 am
by Lando
Well said.
Also, we could just go kick em all in the nuts.
Guys and girls. I don't see what's stopping us.
Posted: 7/1/2003, 8:53 am
by emily
most girls don't have nuts
Posted: 7/1/2003, 9:08 am
by Lando
emily wrote:most girls don't have nuts
Note the word "most"
Posted: 7/1/2003, 9:10 am
by emily
well, shemales do
Posted: 7/1/2003, 9:13 am
by Lando
She-ra did not!!!
Posted: 7/1/2003, 9:16 am
by emily
he-man?
Posted: 7/1/2003, 9:16 am
by Neil
emily wrote:he-man?
is a fairy...
Posted: 7/1/2003, 9:20 am
by emily
battlecat is pretty cool.....
Posted: 7/1/2003, 10:45 am
by Lando
clumsy_congressman wrote:emily wrote:he-man?
is a fairy...
HOW DARE YOU!!! Only the new Crappy He-Man is! The old one was awesome!
Posted: 7/1/2003, 11:10 am
by finding emo
buzhwa wrote:Lando wrote:People will find ways around it. Different programs, zipping files to give them different extensions or even tags. The hackers will always be one step ahead of the authorities...
Exactly. I just don't get what the government thinks it's going to accomplish with any attack on P2P programs. The Internet is all about the sharing of information, so how are they ever going to limit the transfer of MP3s? With their logic, you'll have to sue all the instant-messenger programs that have a "Get File" option. Also, even if they do happen to view all the MP3s on your computer, there's no way they can tell which ones you've downloaded or which tracks you might have just ripped from a CD that you own. In my view, the RIAA had this coming - they charge us $15 for a piece of plastic that costs like a nickel to make, and this is their payback.
I believe that more goes into the cost of the cd than the disc itself... the artist has to be paid, producers, use of recording equipment, etc., etc. I don't think its fair that they're doing this to people, but I also don't think its fair to download an entire CD, fall in love with it, and NOT BUY IT. Personally, I think artists should be HAPPY about these programs, otherwise some artists wouldn't get the exposure that they do (mainly bands whose CDs cannot be found in stores in certain countries)
Posted: 7/1/2003, 11:50 am
by Sufjan Stevens
Maybe artists should strive to make more than one or two good songs per cd. Then their sales might just go up. Why buy a cd for one song when you can download it?
That is why I don't feel bad for the music industry. Most music out there is just over-produced drivel, with an exception of a song or two per cd. Why would anyone want to spend $15 to hear the one song and find out that the rest of the cd sucks? You can't sell the cd back to the store, and you take a $15 hit to your wallet. I'd rather download the one song than buy a cd.
That is the exact reason I don't own a Powderfiger, Harvey Danger, or Local H cd. In most cases, the common person couldn't even name the song that they sang, but can tell you they love that song when they hear it. In cases like that, would you rather buy the 12 song cd from each of those bands, or would you rather download each song and put it on one cd?
Posted: 7/1/2003, 4:39 pm
by buzhwa
Naveeder Val wrote:I believe that more goes into the cost of the cd than the disc itself... the artist has to be paid, producers, use of recording equipment, etc., etc. I don't think its fair that they're doing this to people, but I also don't think its fair to download an entire CD, fall in love with it, and NOT BUY IT. Personally, I think artists should be HAPPY about these programs, otherwise some artists wouldn't get the exposure that they do (mainly bands whose CDs cannot be found in stores in certain countries)
Yeah, I know the profits don't all go to the RIAA, and I agree that it's not fair to burn a whole CD, but, I tend to like only one or two songs on most artists' discs, so, like Alan said, I'm not going to go out and buy the disc just for that. Also, I think some artists are actually happier having their MP3s out there for the worldwide market.