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crustine wrote:i also find this whole concept of 'trapping' a man with a child pretty offensive. This seems to be used as an excuse to blame the woman too often.
Granted in this scenario we can say that this partner was not the father but in most cases the partner in the relationship is the father. In such cases how can men go around saying she is trying to trap me with a kid? The man played a part in making fertilizing that egg so the onus is not all on the woman. And the fact that an irresponsible sexual resulted in a pregnancy is not the womans fault or most likely the intention of the act.

i am ramblin i just find this whole idea that women go around catchin men by having unprotected sex, i think most women of even low intellegence want more from a relationship than duty.


I gotta be honest here crusty, that's garbage, my uncle who within the last month has separated from his wife of 14 years was tricked into having a kid when he wasn't ready financially or in general to be a parent when he was 26. His wife insisted that she was on birth control (she's 2 years older than him and wanted to be a mother before 30) but she was lying and was purposely trying to get pregnant, which she did... well... it's not really unexpected, considering he just found out since the separation that she'd been cheating on him too.

You can't say he's responsible for this at all, this was his wife, the one person he's supposed to be able to trust and they're supposed to make life changing decisions together.
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myownsatellite wrote:The fact of the matter is, she cheated on him, and then tried to TRAP him into the relationship. I think she deserved what she got, whether the guy's a "douche" or not. I think he played it the smart way. And why should he tell her he's shooting blanks? They haven't formed a commitment, as she's obviously fucking someone else, and he's not into her for the marriage thing.


exactly! and he may be a douche because of the things he said while writing the story that made him look shallow or something, but he's a really really smart douche. He did everything correctly by getting things notarized and consulting his lawyer. Also, he would have been much stupider if he didn't teach her a lesson for being a bad person and just ended up telling her straight to spare her feelings. She was trying to ruin his life, she needs a HARSH awakening and she got exactly what was deserved.
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What a screwed up world. I'm staying single.
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im with cass

ldog, I agree there are some women out there who have done this, I just dont think it is as common as the label or stigma is.
It is my opinion that there are many women out there who find themselves pregnant ( not wanting this to happen) and feel a moral/ethical neccesity to see the pregnancy to fruition. Many of these women are labeled as trying to trap the father, oftem because the father didnt want a child anymore that the woman.

I am sure i am not articulating this well
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no I know what you mean, but it was just wrong to say that both parties are always responsible for a pregnancy. It's not always true.
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so what about men who have sex without condoms are they then the responsible party? it is a slippery slope.
I wonder if there are men who intentionaly damage condoms so that they can have a connection with a woman, say someone out of their grasp?
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crustine wrote:so what about men who have sex without condoms are they then the responsible party? it is a slippery slope.
I wonder if there are men who intentionaly damage condoms so that they can have a connection with a woman, say someone out of their grasp?


Pathetically enough.....I'm sure it does happen. Both ways. Guys who want the skin-action. And I suppose its possible....ladies who wanna have a baby, or sabotage.

Hell....both guys and girls can be dumb. That's why we mate.
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Both parties are responsible for a kid of that happens. Even if one didn't want it. The only way to avoid that responsibility is to not have sex.
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That's not the only way...


Pull out. Ok, I'm totally joking.
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crustine wrote:so what about men who have sex without condoms are they then the responsible party? it is a slippery slope.


if the woman says "yes, i want sex without a condom" then they are both responsible, as neither wanted to use protection.

however, if the guy says "i'm not wearing a condom" the woman should be smart enough to say "well then, no sex". she knows the state of what's on, or not on, his penis before it goes in, and hopefully will be able to stop unprotected sex before it happens.

i would say that the man is not the only responsible party in that situation, as the woman does have the final say (yes, there are obviously situations where she doesn't, but i'm not going to even get into being forced into sex) about what's entering her body. if she knows that he's not wearing a condom, they both take the risk.
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You're right, laurel. Both should suffer the consequences if they wish to not make sure the "tool" is wrapped.

Don't be a fool; wrap your tool. Men, and women, should live by that.


Hey, how bout those new spray-on condoms that are being marketed?? :lol:
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i often call him landog, not sure when this started cause sometimes Landon is just a dog (in the nicest possible way ofcourse :P ) I shortened it a wee bit ago to Ldog.

I think it is because one of my co workers calls me C dog.
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how did you get the pic of Lando? he wants to remain anon.
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After reading that story all I have to say is WOW.
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