Not Afraid (album version)

lemonphile4 · Post by **lemonphile4** » 6/19/2004, 12:12 pm

I just think it's weird because he used to take voice lessons from a woman who specialized in training people to sing for long periods of time.

Then again, in her book she talks about how one should avoid "vocal diarrhea" and strive for "vocal orgasms".

Furious George · Post by **Furious George** » 6/19/2004, 12:46 pm

Ooh, do tell more about his vocal trainer.

tasha · Post by **tasha** » 6/19/2004, 3:11 pm

Joe Cool wrote:His voice could very well be getting worse. Theres no telling how much strain he's put on his voice over the last few years of touring.

ya not to mention all the pot he smokes
lol

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 6/19/2004, 3:32 pm

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 6/19/2004, 6:08 pm

The song has grown on me. I like it a lot more now, but the guitar interlude still bothers me. The way Steve played the live version just sounded a lot better.

I also thing it sounds much different than Gravity, actually the production sounds cleaner to me. But I also agree that someone needs to turn the volume up on the guitar. WTF?!

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 6/19/2004, 6:11 pm

Yeah, the guitar seems way too quiet. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, this is the album that should showcase their new "in-your-face" guitarist, not just throw him in as some background music.

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 6/19/2004, 6:14 pm

Axtech wrote:Yeah, the guitar seems way too quiet. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, this is the album that should showcase their new "in-your-face" guitarist, not just throw him in as some background music.

That's what's bothering me most about this song. Steve IS the "in-your-face" guy they love, but this song makes him seem like an "in-the-back-of-your-head" guy they said Mike was too much of.

May I also note, positively, that the bass sounds much better than on Gravity, though? And I also think Raine sounds good, too.

This song, as we all well know, does seem like it would rock live, too.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 6/19/2004, 6:21 pm

it does rock live. Least I think it does

Furious George · Post by **Furious George** » 6/19/2004, 6:40 pm

I'm thinking this song is the exception, I mean from what we've heard "Don't Ask Why" the guitarwork is more noticeable.

Baby Thief · Post by **Baby Thief** » 6/19/2004, 8:33 pm

This song has grown on me as well. I'll sing along with the chorus... but... i did that with a few of the songs on gravity (the ones that i could listen to without feeling like i should throw the cd away). With the songs from the others, i listened to the whole song and sung along with every line and just went crazy when it came to the guitar solos. This is good, but could be better

Clumsy_Birdman · Post by **Clumsy_Birdman** » 6/20/2004, 5:01 am

are we still talking about Not Afraid??

i didnt kno an album version had been heard??

I'm thinking this song is the exception, I mean from what we've heard "Don't Ask Why" the guitarwork is more noticeable.

and is "Dont Ask Why" a song off the new album?? am i missing something here?!

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 6/20/2004, 7:23 am

Yes, you are missing something.

Around Christmas last year, the band sent out a short video clip of them working in the studio. There were two songs played in it, with two different clips from each song. The first song was called Don't Ask Why. The other was Not Afraid.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 6/20/2004, 7:25 am

and you can still get the clip at ourladypeace.net or from the hub

lemonphile4 · Post by **lemonphile4** » 6/20/2004, 8:31 am

Furious George wrote:Ooh, do tell more about his vocal trainer.

This article mentions Raine:
http://www.vocalscience.com/Olv.html

I bought her book a few years ago. Her technique is basically sound, but she uses fluffy terms to describe things.

It's not like I'm an expert or anything though.

Clumsy_Birdman · Post by **Clumsy_Birdman** » 6/20/2004, 12:46 pm

oh yeh, ive got all 3 studio clips... one doesnt sound like Not Afraid at all

namkablam · Post by **namkablam** » 6/20/2004, 1:59 pm

Clumsy_Birdman wrote:oh yeh, ive got all 3 studio clips... one doesnt sound like Not Afraid at all

There's another studio clip that was sent out with Don't Ask Why and Not Afraid in it :jerk off:

Clumsy_Birdman · Post by **Clumsy_Birdman** » 6/20/2004, 2:23 pm

ok... did NOT know that!!

Clumsy_Birdman · Post by **Clumsy_Birdman** » 6/20/2004, 2:58 pm

yup heard it... CHEERS Nam. not afraid studio fucking rawks!!

Waiting to Exist · Post by **Waiting to Exist** » 6/20/2004, 6:26 pm

OH MAH GOD I JUST DOWNLOADED OMG I LUB IT LOTS

That is all.

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 6/20/2004, 6:29 pm

New rumored date:

October 12, 2004

This is from the "Offered is Advice to You" forum.

Sounds about right. I guess we will get a Woodstock-like preview at that show in August.