Gay Marriage

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 5/20/2004, 3:56 pm

Joe Cool wrote:I love how I said I wasnt gonna bring religion into the arguement, and then everyone else goes and comments and argues about religion anyway.

I don't think that people are really arguing here, but stating facts, and opinions.

Actually you can't have a discussion on anything homosexual without bringing religion into the mix. For it is the religious standpoints that are against homosexuality more then cultural standpoints.

then again, maybe I am just bias cause I am for *gay rights* and such. People are people. I hate how people say * Gay Lifestyle*. Last time I check, being gay means you sleep with the same sex. Everything else is the same as a straight person. We all want a good home, good paying job, education, friends, family, someone to love and love us back. How is that different the a Gay Person.

All my friends who are gay, have the same hopes and dreams as I do. So does that mean I live a gay lifestyle without being gay. Actually I am what you call a faghag. Straight female with homosexual male friends.

One-Eye · Post by **One-Eye** » 5/20/2004, 5:44 pm

happeningfish wrote:Well, I think Dubya should work on banning atheists from getting married, cause after all it's a religious thing! Who's with me?! What? No one?

Oh me! Oh me! And while we're at it, we should ban gay people from getting healthcare, CUZ OMG WE MIGHT GET THERE GAEY COOTIEZ!!!!11

Also, let's kill all the Muslims, CUZ LIEK THEIR ALL TERRISTZ!!111 OH NOES!!!11111four1

Joe Cooler · Post by **Joe Cooler** » 5/20/2004, 8:28 pm

My sarcasim meter just exploded.

modern psychokitty · Post by **modern psychokitty** » 5/24/2004, 11:43 pm

sarcasm, actually.

fool.

Cole · Post by **Cole** » 7/6/2004, 4:43 am

i don't really understand the religions being against it. nowhere in the bible or anything does it say it's a sin to be homosexual....so wtf? it does, though, say things like

Marriage is honorable in all. --Heb. xiii. 4.

Lydia · Post by **Lydia** » 7/6/2004, 9:10 am

I always find it a little hypocritical when people say homosexuality is bad because the bible says so. Loads of men in the bible have multiply wives and that's absolutely okay, yet I haven't seen any christians fighting for polygamous marriages. Nor have I seen them protesting against eating meat on fridays.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » 7/6/2004, 12:36 pm

it's their choice, if someone wants to marry someone of the same sex and it makes them happy, then best of luck to them, it doesn't me, it doesn't affect my lifestyle or anything and it makes them happy, so what should i care? it's like if things were reversed and there were more homosexual people than straight people and they were trying to ban straight marriages, what does it matter to them what straight people do? so what should it matter to straight people what gay people do?

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 7/6/2004, 12:52 pm

this thread is nine pages of the same post.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » 7/6/2004, 1:08 pm

isn't that good?

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 7/6/2004, 1:35 pm

I don't like fish. I don't eat fish. I don't think anyone should eat fish. Its icky. Lets make it illegal.

One-Eye · Post by **One-Eye** » 7/6/2004, 5:46 pm

Hear hear! My rights are being trampled on, because there's this lady at my work who eats fish for lunch EVERY! MOTHERFUCKING! DAY! and it stinks up the whole place! She ain't respecting my right not to have to smell people eating fish! Let's make eating fish illegal! No, even that won't stop these immoral fuckers. LET'S JUST KILL THEM!

(wait... I think I need a justification for my hateful, illogical argument...) GOD SAYS SO TOO!!! (yeah, that should work.)

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 7/7/2004, 6:33 am

you laugh... but now how many of you support banning smoking in public places? Furthermore, how many of you support global health care?

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 7/7/2004, 8:49 am

double standard overload.

one-eye, i thought it was your position that the majority is always right. who cares if the argument against gay marriage is logical? majority rules, right?

everytime i come into this thread, the hypocrisy of some of you blows me away. it actually makes me physically aggrivated.

don't bother trying to justify it. this is the time for you to bow your heads in shame and accept the fact that your beliefs are one giant contradiction.

One-Eye · Post by **One-Eye** » 7/7/2004, 1:45 pm

one-eye, i thought it was your position that the majority is always right. who cares if the argument against gay marriage is logical? majority rules, right?

That's not my position at all.

I support majority rule, minority rights. Gay marriage falls under the latter.

but now how many of you support banning smoking in public places?

Not me. I support the right of individual property owners to decide whether or not to allow smoking on their premises. However, I also think that if tobacco's going to be legal at all, so should marijuana and other relatively "harmless" recreational drugs.

Furthermore, how many of you support global health care?

How's that related? I don't for the record, support global healthcare. I'd support government-regulated healthcare in my country, or in my community. How does this make me a hypocrite in regards to gay marriage? I fail to see the connection.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 7/7/2004, 2:03 pm

Because some people don't want to pay for fat asses that stuff their faces and then have heart attacks or strokes. Some people don't want to pay for drug users who OD and need rehab treatment. Some people don't want to pay for sluts that go and have unprotected sex and catch all sorts of diseases. Some people don't want to pay for "X-treme" athletes that choose to do asinine stunts and break every bone in their bodies. But due to a majority rule and "community healthcare" they have to take care of people who choose not to take care of themselves. If you believe in a democratic vote that determines that those who don't agree with such a policy should participate, what is wrong with a democratic vote that outlaws a gay marriage?'

And for the record.. I said "public" places... should smoking be allowed in airports/hospitals/government buildings/etc?

Also, I'd like to know where you got the idea that just because someone doesn't think a gay marriage should be legal, that means they want them all killed.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 7/7/2004, 2:09 pm

but one eye , where are those rights derived?

how come you feel gays have a "right" to marriage?

what standard are you using to determine that?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 7/7/2004, 2:47 pm

Though I don't know her exact position, I'd say that if other human beings have the right to marry, so should they.

You know, being human beings, too...

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » 7/7/2004, 2:55 pm

who says straight people have the right to marry? and the smoking thing is different in some aspects, such as smoking has been PROVEN to HARM people even second hand smoke and it causes problems with people who have asthma and such so it's actually HURTING people how are gay people getting married hurting others?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 7/7/2004, 2:56 pm

Rusty wrote:who says straight people have the right to marry?

Uhh... all of the straight people who can go out and get married any time they want.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 7/7/2004, 2:56 pm

mosaik wrote:double standard overload.

one-eye, i thought it was your position that the majority is always right. who cares if the argument against gay marriage is logical? majority rules, right?

everytime i come into this thread, the hypocrisy of some of you blows me away. it actually makes me physically aggrivated.

don't bother trying to justify it. this is the time for you to bow your heads in shame and accept the fact that your beliefs are one giant contradiction.

I think you just need to remember that people here are still in their teens for the most part, and most are still testing the weather when it comes to their beliefs. It's good to point out the flaws in their arguments. Hell, you made me umpteen times better at debating and writing by doing that, but there isn't a need to tell them to bow their heads in shame because they're still figuring things out for themselves.

I don't know, maybe it just came out wrong, but you don't want to scare people off from debates during a time when they're developing their own thoughts. Ya know?

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Anyways I really don't have much to say about this. A woman has the right to choose since it's her body, and we shouldn't be able to force beliefs upon someone.