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Posted: 10/22/2003, 4:57 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
Anyways, there ain't nothin wrong with gettin your freak on with unwilling women as long as you have fat wads of cash to throw around to protect you. (Kobe Bryant).
Love doesn't matter, let alone exist anyways. It's just some myth a group of ladies came up with to prevent their daughters from participating in gang bangs. Love is nothing more than being dependant on seeing someone else. You trick yourself into thinking you need to be around that person, and sure enough, to justify the fact you want to be around a person, for whatever reason it may be, you classify it as love, even when it doesn't exist. The end.
But back on topic, who cares if you do what you like? As long as you aren't going out of your way to hurt or kill a human, it shouldn't really matter.
Posted: 10/22/2003, 4:58 pm
by Joey
nikki4982 wrote:Anyway, yes, all of what you said is quite true. Personally, I try to steer away from gelatin and other stuff like that found in candy, even though I'm not vegan... but I am guilty of using/eating some stuff that includes it. I wish I weren't, but it's just so hard in our society to do, cos you never know what it's hiding in.
Seriously .. isn't it disgusting how gelatin is in SO many foods? It's always where you least expect it too. Like the frosting on poptarts! A poptart is vegan until they throw on the frosting

and it's in the frosting on mini wheats! Jello too .. but there's veggie jello .. even though I hate jello

Posted: 10/22/2003, 5:00 pm
by Sufjan Stevens

There is such a thing as vegetarian jello? I can't beliebe there's vegetarian gelatin.

Posted: 10/22/2003, 5:09 pm
by Joey
There's vegetable based gelatin but it's apparently hard to find and most companies don't bother with it beause of that so they use the cheaper, more cost effective gelatin and the one more readily available which comes from animals .... but yes, veggie jello ... I don't believe it has any gelatin of any kind in it ... there's probably a veggie alternative for just about everything out there if you look hard enough

They introduced the first veggie marshmallow not that long ago ...
Posted: 10/22/2003, 7:22 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
I still think it's oh so wrong that there's such a thing as gelatin-free gelatin.

I mean, wow, I never thought it would be possible to say something like that. It's like saying "oxygen-free water;" It's just not meant to happen.
Posted: 10/23/2003, 1:16 am
by nikki4982
Joey wrote:Seriously .. isn't it disgusting how gelatin is in SO many foods? It's always where you least expect it too. Like the frosting on poptarts! A poptart is vegan until they throw on the frosting

and it's in the frosting on mini wheats! Jello too .. but there's veggie jello .. even though I hate jello

Woah! I didn't know that about poptarts and mini wheats. Dude, that sucks.

*sigh*
And, yeah, there's gelatin-free gelatin now.

That reminds me... I've gotta get back to the vegetarian supermarket in Philadelphia soon. That place has ALL of that kind of stuff... it's amazing.

Fake gelatin, fake chicken salad, fake tuna salad... fake EVERYTHING. Place is the size of a normal supermarket.

Only thing that sucks is that it's in Philly, and I take a train to get there... and have to walk like 10 blocks... so shopping a lot would be difficult.
*goes back to eating her chicken-free chicken noodle soup*

Posted: 10/23/2003, 10:00 am
by Joey
Well it's not really gelatin free gelatin, it's just a vegetable based gelatin .. like you can get vegetable based glycerin too ... the company Wrigley's uses all vegetable based glcyerin in all their gum so they're vegan
Yeah there's one huge Whole Foods Market in Toronto that sells nothing but vegan/veggie foods but I don't drive and it's 2 hours away so I've never been there. My local stores have most of what I need .. like veggie sour cream, cream cheese, pudding, yogurt etc but I can't imagine an entire veggie store

Posted: 10/23/2003, 1:52 pm
by Johnny
What is gelatin made from?

Posted: 10/23/2003, 2:32 pm
by Mechanical Thought
I think it has horse bones in it or something. Hmm.
Posted: 10/23/2003, 2:36 pm
by Neil
I drove to Geneseo for a "Taco Bell Experience" last night........and it wasn't actually that great.
I did come home with massive amounts of anal-breezing though.
Posted: 10/23/2003, 4:23 pm
by Joey
Gelatin: Protein obtained by boiling skin, tendons, ligaments or bones with water, from cattle and hogs. Used in shampoos, face masks, other cosmetics. Used as a thickener for fruit gelatins and puddings (Jello-brand desserts). In candies, marshmallows, cakes, ice cream, yogurts. On photographic film as a coating and in vitamins as capsules.
Posted: 10/23/2003, 4:37 pm
by Johnny
Posted: 10/23/2003, 4:40 pm
by Reyna
Rufus Wainwright wrote:
Love doesn't matter, let alone exist anyways. It's just some myth a group of ladies came up with to prevent their daughters from participating in gang bangs. Love is nothing more than being dependant on seeing someone else. You trick yourself into thinking you need to be around that person, and sure enough, to justify the fact you want to be around a person, for whatever reason it may be, you classify it as love, even when it doesn't exist. The end.
Actually, love is the opposite of dependency. In order to feel something for another person, you need to be a complete person and happy with yourself. And if you fit that description, you're not going to be dependent on seeing anyone. Love is about finding someone who makes you happy and that you actually LIKE spending time with.
Anyway, in regards to Nikki: a vegetarian supermarket! That kicks ass. I wish there was one of those around here.
Posted: 10/23/2003, 4:50 pm
by Joey
Absent Minded Guitarist wrote::wtf:
Gross huh? That's why I don't eat anything with gelatin in it .. unfortunately since I don't have a digital camera and until I can afford to buy one there isn't anything I can do about my camera film

Posted: 10/23/2003, 5:27 pm
by Johnny
Joey wrote:Absent Minded Guitarist wrote::wtf:
Gross huh? That's why I don't eat anything with gelatin in it .. unfortunately since I don't have a digital camera and until I can afford to buy one there isn't anything I can do about my camera film

yes, its is gross.
At first I wondered how you brought camaras into the conversation. Then I re-read your post.

Posted: 10/24/2003, 12:23 am
by nikki4982
Joey wrote:My local stores have most of what I need .. like veggie sour cream, cream cheese, pudding, yogurt etc but I can't imagine an entire veggie store


Wow... our normal supermarkets have none of that stuff, as far as I've seen. I've seen vegan cheese... and that's about it as far as "dairy" stuff goes. We've got all the Morningstar and Boca stuff (:drool:), and now there's one called Amy's... that's the No-chicken Noodle I was eating last night...

If you haven't had it already, and find it, try it... it's vegan.

And reeeeeeeeeally good.
And, yes, that vegetarian supermarket is very very VERY cool. I need to move it closer to my house.

Posted: 10/24/2003, 12:24 am
by Dr. Hobo
i want to find the boca stuff

Posted: 10/24/2003, 12:27 am
by nikki4982
Aww.

Boca = GOOOOOD. Their "sausage" is INCREDIBLE.

Aww, now I'm hungry and want that... but it's downstairs.

Yay for laziness!!!
Posted: 10/24/2003, 12:32 am
by Dr. Hobo
i wanna make tacoes with the boca stuff
it was soooooooooo good when joey made it
(i helped!)
(not really but i can pretend)
Posted: 10/24/2003, 1:23 am
by nikki4982
Oh, is it the ground "beef"? Cos Morningstar makes that, too.

That's the kind I get.