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Posted: 7/18/2005, 12:30 am
by Hope
gagh i should have never entered this thread if i havent freaking finished the book.

boooo

Posted: 7/18/2005, 11:16 am
by Random Name
So, this isn't really a spoiler because those who haven't read it will actually have no idea what I'm talking about anyways but I'll black text it just in case.

Any R.A.B. Theories?

I immediatly thought of Regulas Black. It all fits, He was a death eater, we went against Voldie and was killed within a few days and we really don't know much else about him. My question is, why didn't any of the trio think of that?

Posted: 7/18/2005, 12:54 pm
by closeyoureyes
Maybe they didn't because they didn't know him very well, and he hadnt been mentioned very many times. Your theory is excellent though.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 2:00 pm
by saman
i thought of him too. until some better theories surface, i'm going to stick with that.

edit: also, if that's right, <font color="black">harry will have to go back to grimmauld place in the next book to look for voldemort's horcrux

Posted: 7/18/2005, 3:24 pm
by Axtech
Hotel Lights wrote:A bunch of people I know keep thinking the article is real...


:lol:

Posted: 7/18/2005, 3:27 pm
by Waiting to Exist
I think everything in the book sets Harry up to return to Grimmauld Place. I mean, he owns it now, and they dwelt on that way too much in the sixth book for it not to be used in the seventh. Also, there's apparently a line from OotP about "a heavy locket that nobody could open" or something to that effect, while listing things in Grimmauld Place.. It's possible that was one of Rowling's little hints that nobody picks up on until the thing it was hinting has happened. Plus, since it's in Grimmauld Place, if it is in fact Riddle's locket, Regulus Black would make perfect sense as R.A.B.

EDIT: To add to what Sinead said, I think most of the time, when Regulus was mentioned, it was narrated, not from one of the characters.

I dunno how much of what I wrote is a spoiler, but I figured I'd be safe.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 4:19 pm
by Johnny
Soomething that I've been thinking about:

Do you all really think that Snape is a true death eater? Or is he still undercover for the Order? And another thing, Dumbledore doesn't seem like the type of man to beg for his life. So in the end, when he says "severus please", I believe that he was asking Snape to kill him, in order to maintain his cover with the death eaters. Wouldn't it look suspicious if Snape refused to do it?


either that or Snape is a real deather eater

Posted: 7/18/2005, 4:37 pm
by Waiting to Exist
I think Snape is still good, and was doing it under orders from Dumbledore. For one, he was giving Harry hints all the time he was being chased, and Snape COMPLETELY overreacted when Harry called him a coward, and his reaction would make sense if Snape had just killed the one person who trusted him against his own will. Plus, if it wasn't planned, what was the point of the scene where Snape and Dumbledore were arguing, according to Hagrid?

So I agree.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 4:48 pm
by saman
i'm reading the same theories on another board right now, but there's one thing i'd like to point out:

snape names himself the half-blood prince. a title akin to lord voldemort. maybe there was some sort of plan between dumbledore and snape, because the reason dumbledore gives for trusting snape is a pretty pathetic one, but i see him as leaning more towards voldemort's side than dumbledore's. snape has a lot in common with voldemort. and in the third book, he actually calls himself "master of this school", meaning hogwarts. i'd love it if he wasn't evil, but there's a fair bit of evidence to suggest that he is. sorry to be a downer.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 5:01 pm
by Axtech
I hope you don't mind, but I made that black in case there were spoilers (it seemed like there might have been).

Posted: 7/18/2005, 5:06 pm
by saman
wasn't it already black? i could swear i made it black *confused*

oh well. thanks rob

Posted: 7/18/2005, 5:14 pm
by Henrietta
Crap, I am not returning until I finish.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 5:26 pm
by Axtech
saman wrote:wasn't it already black? i could swear i made it black *confused*

oh well. thanks rob


Nope. It had something like "< font text="black" >" in front of it, though.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 5:30 pm
by Waiting to Exist
I think it's possible Snape could lean towards Voldemort more than Dumbledore, but being pure evil is much simpler than Rowling has done in the past. Even Voldemort had all the stuff he did as Tom Riddle to add depth to the character.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 6:11 pm
by Odio La Cabra
snape is one tough cookie to crack...he seemed reluctant to make that vow thingy or whatever at the beggining and yet he seemed so evil at the end, and he seemed sincere with draco when they were in that classroom


on a diffrent thought, i actually thpught maybe harry would be a horcrux...i dunno it was just a thought in a fit of insanity in an attempt to figure it out

Posted: 7/18/2005, 6:35 pm
by Sonya
So, Harry is not going back to Hogwarts next year?

i think that would be a cool way to finish the series, in my opinion.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 6:53 pm
by happening fish
Whoa, guys, excellent theories. I'm going to have to read it again.

Good thoughts on R.A.B., I couldn't think of anything for that one. Also the whole Dumbledore/Snape thing... wow... good thinking. I really don't know what to think of that one. One thing, though, is that didn't Remus seem like REALLY shocked about D's death? Wouldn't he know about it? Wouldn't they at least tell Harry or something? Cause I mean, the kid's liable to go kill Snape now... christ I'm confused. By the way 12 Grimmauld is certain to be revisited. Good eye on the locket thing, Saman. But as far as Snape callling himself a master of the school, I think he just meant it in the British sense of being a teacher (thus Headmaster, etc.)

Posted: 7/18/2005, 7:33 pm
by afealicious
maaaan this is all so tempting, you don't even know. :lol:

Posted: 7/18/2005, 7:48 pm
by Waiting to Exist
Alexfish, if the purpose of Snape killing Dumbledore was to get him back into Voldemort's good graces, then the Order would want to avoid telling Harry because of the link between him and Voldemort. Until Harry learns occlumency or whatever a bit better, Voldemort could find out the truth and make Dumbledore's death pointless if Harry knew.

Posted: 7/18/2005, 9:20 pm
by Odio La Cabra
I'm kinda sad about harry not going back to hogwarts...it's really depressing i mean, all ive ever known is hogwarts. i find it depressing :no: