Jean Chrétien and Carolyn Parrish are Poo Poo Heads
Manitoba is NDP and i'm damn proud, i understand Conservitive ideas and agree they could work, i just don't believe in the morals, and traditions, i'm left wing and proabbly will always be left wing
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
so call me a communist or hippie or whatever else some of you would call me
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
you gotta get involved johnathan, cause when you don't vote in elections or bond issues, your actually voting yes. and when that happens your bound to "agree" with something you don't think is right. 

Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown

"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
hmmm maybe i should move to sweden...or Switzerland.......mmm maybe denmark too
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
think tropical dude, like virgin islands or something cool like that. 

Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
by not voting your not strengthening your anarchist ideas, all your doing is allowing HUGE mistakes like Bush to happen, look what happened in america, we all found out that everyones vote does count last american election, i can understand that you hate all organized governmet but at least vote for the lesser of evils
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root" - Thoreau
i strike the root. all governments are evil. there is no such thing as a legitimate government. by voting i am legitimitizing their regimes. i refuse to participate in such an activity.
bush, gore, gush, bore, they're all the same.
not to mention voting is a method of coercison, and i don't believe in the use of force to bind others to my will, ever.
i strike the root. all governments are evil. there is no such thing as a legitimate government. by voting i am legitimitizing their regimes. i refuse to participate in such an activity.
bush, gore, gush, bore, they're all the same.
not to mention voting is a method of coercison, and i don't believe in the use of force to bind others to my will, ever.

would you prefer we had no govt?
cause thats what it sounds like
cause thats what it sounds like
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
ya I'm sure that would work...
i'm sorry but the govt is not THAT bad. We need govt whether you believe it or not, or else we wouldn't have anything, no schools, no hospitals, no money, and the list can go on. We'd be ruled by a mob or it would be simply a matter of the fittest survive. Anarchy is by no means better than govt.
It's not like we live in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union where people were being killed by the govt.
please enlighten everyone (including me) on why we don't need govt and explain how we would be better off without.

i'm sorry but the govt is not THAT bad. We need govt whether you believe it or not, or else we wouldn't have anything, no schools, no hospitals, no money, and the list can go on. We'd be ruled by a mob or it would be simply a matter of the fittest survive. Anarchy is by no means better than govt.
It's not like we live in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union where people were being killed by the govt.
please enlighten everyone (including me) on why we don't need govt and explain how we would be better off without.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
J-Neli wrote:would you prefer we had no govt?
cause thats what it sounds like
Where have you been J-Neli? Doug and Chris have always shown their support of anarchy in these forums. They have made several points why they believe Anarchy would be better. Though I believe many of them are valid, I still don't agree to Anarchy as a solution.
There is one BIG hole. Money. Government is what gives money value. Without government, it is just paper. Nothing short of a barder system would be feasible in an anarchist community.
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people are being killed by the government, first off.
everyone who died in 9/11 was killed by a government.
everybody who will die in the upcoming iraq war will be killed by the orders of government.
we would still have schools, hospitals, etc. anything the state can do, private enterprise can do better.
there's nothing wrong with survival of the fittest in my opinion, although i personally am of the belief that all men are capable of self-government. frankly, if you can't figure out how to surivive independently of me, then i believe that falls under the heading of "your problem."
if you need me to survive, and i die, how will you keep going? making people reliant on their peers weakens the society.
not to mention, all governments rule by force, and therefore are morally bankrupt.
everyone who died in 9/11 was killed by a government.
everybody who will die in the upcoming iraq war will be killed by the orders of government.
we would still have schools, hospitals, etc. anything the state can do, private enterprise can do better.
there's nothing wrong with survival of the fittest in my opinion, although i personally am of the belief that all men are capable of self-government. frankly, if you can't figure out how to surivive independently of me, then i believe that falls under the heading of "your problem."
if you need me to survive, and i die, how will you keep going? making people reliant on their peers weakens the society.
not to mention, all governments rule by force, and therefore are morally bankrupt.

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I have a question for the Politwins. I still don't understand this not voting thing. Clearly not everyone in the world will agree with you on this issue, so if even if it comes down to three people who vote, they will still elect someone. Wouldn't that be a greater tyranny, to leave the choice to fewer and fewer people... all of which have beliefs that are successively more opposed to yours? I'm not against your principles, I am truly curious...
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Politwins. heh.
in a perfect world, i'd like to see no elections. but i still view reducing the voter turnout to three people nationwide as an effective method of toppling our government.
if that many people had lost faith in demockracy, there would be nobody to enforce the government's laws. people would just disregard them all together.
demockracy's gain strength from the number of their supporters. if there were more dissenters then supporters, the demockracy would fall.

in a perfect world, i'd like to see no elections. but i still view reducing the voter turnout to three people nationwide as an effective method of toppling our government.
if that many people had lost faith in demockracy, there would be nobody to enforce the government's laws. people would just disregard them all together.
demockracy's gain strength from the number of their supporters. if there were more dissenters then supporters, the demockracy would fall.

Doug Bin Laden wrote:corey you're right that the legal money system that we know today probably wouldn't exist.
any form of payment acceptable to both buyer and seller would be used. most anarchists, self included, would accept gold as the universal money unit.
Not everyone would have gold. There just isn't enough. Are you really going to use gold to buy groceries every week? How about paying credit card bills... send them a nugget in the mail? I don't think so.
Besides, what gives gold it's value?
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