clumsy_congressman wrote:Gail....I know. I was simply stating a point that her performance will probably be shorter than OLP's and yet OLP is opening????
I agree with you one that. You know what would be really sad If she came out and did a song with Raine. OMG, I think I would lose all respect for him there. This is Avril Lavigne here, not Michele Branch. It is a sad day indeed when OLP have to open up for someone liek this. I don't care how big she is in Europe. She will die out, while OLP will continue to make amzing(although some will disagree) Music.
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whoever said they never heard avril say she does punk music: i have the magazine. i have the one where she SAID she owuld describe her music as punk and then the one where she says she never said she was punk. at which point, the reporter from YM said "but you said back in..." and then quoted. I also have her album, and i said before that its by no means a BAD album. not the greatest, but not bad. My point: she is a pre-packaged pop act disguised as "pnk/rock" whatever the hell she calls herself thsi week. tell me something: take the guitar off her neck and the guys from behind her and how rock/punk is she then. she's nothing but packaged garbage. the music isn't bad because she didn't write it. anybody can sing and look cute on stage. she claims she doesn't have to bare her belly(like britney) to sell records, yet she ocntinuously does.
MY point: OLP should not be opening for her. they shouldn't even be TOURING iwth her, but OPENING is...that was unimaginable! they've been around for ten years! avril probably couldn't even spell 10 years ago! not that she can now either...i mean, how much more processed can you get than to spell boy "boi" that is so incredibly fake and processed it makes me want to vommit.
SO I guess SOny is making their money off of oLP now. Can I just ask a quetsion? How can OLP have NO say in who they play with? Is thsi how record contracts are set up? because as far as i know, befor ethis, they had A LOT of ocntrol and now all the sudden, we have something to bitch about every other day. It has got to be kind of..hmm..degrading(dont know if thats teh right owrd to use) for the band as well. I eman, OPENING for avril?!
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ohh yeah, i think i have that ym too. where it was talking about her and her "boys" and how she doesnt know why anyone think shes punk, even though she said in an interview in a previous issue that she was.
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hmmmmm avril and OLP? Worst combo ever? Their music is not alike. haha. Geez when i first saw they were going to london i was thinking "maybe i'll go to london the" but now they are opening for her. I am so confused. They are 100 times better than her.
Since when did OLP have to sink back into being an opening band.
I can actually see it now, the reason why OLP is not getting the popularity and fame-allow me to call it - is not because they don't get enough exposure. But their music really doesn't appeal to a lot of people. That's why they're taking it the easy way now, writing music that's more appealing to the mass and no longer targeting the people who have a more refined taste in music. Let's face it, OLP isn't that talented, Happiness and Spiritual Machines were two ambitious albums where the target was not the mainsteam while still gaining popularity, and they failed. Now that after 10 years they realized (they as in OLP excluding Mike) they can't take the Radiohead, Tool route (everyone wants to be Radiohead, popular around the world yet still un-compromising). If they want to sell out, they have to abandone their signiture sound and change. All I'm saying is OLP falls in the middle in mainstream and alternative, now that they know the band can't take the alternative route, they have to degrade their music into a more mainstream calibre. Touring with Avril, releasing Gravity, having their songs featured on Planet Pop or whatever, these are exactly what the band is looking for, so stop blaming Sony and Bob Rock.
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Yes, Avril Lavigne is punk. Ya know, she is punk like the Sex Pistols and Anti-Flag, because she sings about social problems and isn't out for popularity and style. What a stupid bitch.
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I don't like it, but if OLP has to do it to get some recognition, thank God it's in Europe.
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OLPFan420 wrote:Yes, Avril Lavigne is punk. Ya know, she is punk like the Sex Pistols and Anti-Flag, because she sings about social problems and isn't out for popularity and style. What a stupid bitch.
"he was ask8r boi, she said c-ya l8r boi"????!?!?!?!?
""why'd you have to go and make things so complicated? see the way you're acting like a fool makes me frustrated"???
I SO see what you were talking about! I really hope you were being sarcastic. REALLLLY hope!
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Odin wrote:Since when did OLP have to sink back into being an opening band.
I can actually see it now, the reason why OLP is not getting the popularity and fame-allow me to call it - is not because they don't get enough exposure. But their music really doesn't appeal to a lot of people. That's why they're taking it the easy way now, writing music that's more appealing to the mass and no longer targeting the people who have a more refined taste in music. Let's face it, OLP isn't that talented, Happiness and Spiritual Machines were two ambitious albums where the target was not the mainsteam while still gaining popularity, and they failed. Now that after 10 years they realized (they as in OLP excluding Mike) they can't take the Radiohead, Tool route (everyone wants to be Radiohead, popular around the world yet still un-compromising). If they want to sell out, they have to abandone their signiture sound and change. All I'm saying is OLP falls in the middle in mainstream and alternative, now that they know the band can't take the alternative route, they have to degrade their music into a more mainstream calibre. Touring with Avril, releasing Gravity, having their songs featured on Planet Pop or whatever, these are exactly what the band is looking for, so stop blaming Sony and Bob Rock.
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^agreed. and I'll tell you why. hope nobody attacks me fo rthis, but I think I have lost a certain amount of respect for them. As somebody said earlier, when did ANY exposure become good exposure? Maybe I am wrong on this, but if they absolutely refused to open for Avril, nobody could make them. maybe I am wrong. I hope I am. Butit seems like we're always blaming SONY for something, when, in the past, they have been doing as they please with the same record contract that they are now opening for Avirl with. In the past, SOny has never been able to mak ethem do this stuff so why are they giving innow?
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Ya know, it's just a 10 or 12 date tour across Europe, so it's not a big deal. All we should care about is the music they write, not the fans they make in Brussels and London, right? I mean, they don't affect us. I am all for them going on tour with Avril. I am not saying I like her, because I surely don't, but doesn't anyone think it's time that OLP gets recognized? Some of us here are lucky and liked OLP since the beginning, and that's great, but everyone deserves to listen to OLP. They're an amazing band, and just because OLP hasn't been everyone's favorite band since the beginning doesn't mean people shouldn't have the right to listen to them. I am sure there are going to be guys there who are totally whipped by their girlfriends, hear OLP, and go home with their cds and are new fans. So if OLP wants their music to be heard, and they have to go on tour with some one we don't like to make sure people here it, then so be it, it's not like the majority of us planned to fly to Munich to see OLP anyway.
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i like avril's music. her CD has good songs on it. although she didnt write them, shes not who she says she is, and yes shes pre packaged to appeal to all the teenage girl "rebels" out there.
OLP touring with avril lavigne? yeah, sure, whatever, im not happy about it, but what can i do.
OLP OPENING for avril lavigne, thats just fucking wrong.
i cant believe it.
i never thought the one band i thought i could trust to never do what i always feared would happen.. well, they did it.
what the person said about the whole gravity, planet pop, touring with avril... that really makes me sad. i cant believe theyd give up something really amazing just to be popular.
if they have other reasons, then please, i think they should share them.
otherwise, oh dear....
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the faith you've found i've never felt
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Wait, I lied. This is bullshit. Yay, they get more fans, but they're a bunch of 30yr old experienced musicians with 5 albums behind them taking second stage for a 6month-famous pop singing girl who can't even decide what kind of music she makes. Avril's decent, but this makes OLP look like her bitches.
Wow .. all this complaining is really pathetic .. I mean seriously .. let it go.
In Avril's defense, I've seen her live, she's awesome, she has talent, she sounded great live and YES she did write her own songs, the lyrics yes, the music no .. yes she does have a young crowd, I saw 6-8 year olds there BUT I've seen kids that young at OLP shows too .. the Sarnia show as a matter of fact had 3 little girls hanging onto stuffed animals with their mom and they were screaming for Raine just as loud as everyone else .. does it matter? No
In Canada Our Lady Peace opening for Avril would be something to wonder about, in Europe Our Lady Peace opening for Avril is how it should be .. OLP are barely known over there, Avril is known as far as Malaysia and this will get OLP some attention ... is that a good thing? Yes
Main point: quit all the bitching and be happy the band you love is getting the attention they deserve
i was watching the R&S compilation today.......does anyone else really really miss 97' wow they were so popular back then and they made edgier music too! Maybe that was the true reason for OLP's far fall from fame, Happiness was a masterpiece in many ways but............you can see how they fell out of fame after Clumsy if you looked at what they were famous for
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