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Postby Brooklin Matt » 1/6/2003, 11:20 pm

xchrisx,

Could you back up your statements a little more. What you mentioned about the media is a very poorly conceived notion. I agree that the word slut was probably derived through our male-dominated society, but men can be the same thing. Just because its more widely accepted doesn't mean its right for guys to act that way. Sexually liberated doesn't mean bang as many as you can..........its about understanding those feelings and letting it enhance you and your partner(s) lives.

I think when sex is viewed as a commodity, it makes us all consumers who must have it. That's typical of media brainwashing. And so is letting girls like Christina and Britney dance their choreographed dance crap and do a little striptease just so girls will think that its the right way to act. Its not about hiding your feelings, but when they are exploited, it makes me wonder why we asa society condone it so much?? xChrisx, are you trying to tell me that porn liberates women because it shows sexual freedom??

And parents don't really control their kids much after the age of 8-9. Friends and media role models become just as important and can influence total stupidity. Our culture is highly dependant on media values, and what they put out does render consequences. AN Example is how males become more aggressive and less sensitive to women when watching hardcore porn. It objectifies them, and allows males to rely more on instinctual urges rather than proper behaviour.
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Postby starvingeyes » 1/7/2003, 2:42 pm

a. joey - cool your jets. i'm not trying to offend you. i had thought that you were a little bit younger, that's all, and maybe not so experienced in those things.

and i STILL fail to see what's disgusting about knowing that somebody has had a great deal of sex. that usually means that they're better in bed. not everybody settles down right away. lots of people have several different partners before they find one they love.

b. animal - my parents still had a great deal of control over me right up till i was 16, and the only reason that control went away was because they relinquished it. good parenting, i suppose.

as far as porn goes, i'm trying to tell you that it liberates women because it allows them to make their own choices. did you know that there is a school in the united states where middle aged women come and learn how to strip? they do this because stipping makes them feel sexy and powerful.

just because gloria steinem says porn makes men insensitive to women and demeans them doesn't mean it actually does. you'll notice that 100% of women who call porn "demeaning" aren't doing it. they are just trying to be busybodies and tell other people how to live their lives.

the belief that our society has that people need to have reality censored for them is crap. people need to claim some fucking responsibility for their actions and stop trying to scapegoat everything on some patsy, in this case the popular media.

the reason people are getting stupider is because they don't have to accept responsibility anymore. i can sit through 72 straight hours of hardcore porn and still know how to treat a lady. my little sister has every britney, christina, pink and shakira record there is and has seen all of their videos multiple times. she knows to act responsibly.

stupid people who don't know the difference between right and wrong are stupid. don't punish the rest of us for their idiocy.
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Postby I AM ME » 1/7/2003, 4:14 pm

"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

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Postby emily » 1/9/2003, 8:29 am

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Postby starvingeyes » 1/9/2003, 9:33 am

a.it's not "dangerous" to have sex with many different people. they have this great device out these days called a "condom". apparently, ensuring that the male wears one during intercourse is 99% effective in combating STD's and pregnancy.

despite what you may have heard from pro-abstinence sex education in public school, you are more likey to die playing a game of soccer then you are to contract AIDS from having unprotected sex with a heterosexual partner who is not a needle-drug abuser or a prostitute.

statstically, driving your car is infinitely more dangerous to you then having sex with a condom on.

b. slut is a slur. it needs to be removed from society's lexicon. if you want to refer to somebody who gets alot of action, call them a "pimp" or "promiscuous".

c. i consider music to be what it is: anything with a melody.
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