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Postby I AM ME » 12/13/2003, 1:37 am

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Postby starseed_10 » 12/13/2003, 1:52 am

yep.


i hate it when people ask me what i listen to.

i can answer something along the lines of "emo". but then they make me repeat myself and ask me what it is... and obviously i cant explain it to them.
or i can shrug and look like an idiot because i cant even answer a simple question.
or i can say "punk" and have them jump into Good Charlotte and Sum 41 and try to restrain myself from puking on them.


that had nothing to do with the topic... so yeah, you make a good point. there's hardly anything good on the radio now. but i dont know if it's any different than it was ten years ago. i'd probably hate nirvana and stone temple pilots and all that stuff if i was old enough to get into it back then. it's obviously better quality than what's out there now, but i think something about the "popular music" scene essentially makes a lot of bands unappealing to me.. and it would probably be the same if they were decent bands.
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Postby I AM ME » 12/13/2003, 1:57 am

i'm not sure whether i'm that way in a sence aswell, but i do know that if you look purely at the music itself, popular music in the past still showed more talent, art and just plaing muscianship. As you can see from the Nostalgic 90's thread, there's lots of popular songs there that wern't exacty masterpieces, they were pretty commercial and simple, but the lyrics and musicianship was still light years ahead of most of our stuff. Could this be also linked to our generations flagging intrest in anything complex or long? Our attention spans these days are sickeningly low
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

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"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

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Postby Bananababy » 12/13/2003, 11:05 am

I'd have to agree with the poor taste in music these days. I think it has to do more with the people than the industry, though... The industry's just going along with it and like the easy money, which is stupid.
I'm going to college to study to work in the music industry, and I know I'll definitely back up any good music I hear and complain about the crap. I even hear that people who work on MTV and such don't like the music they play, but they play it anyway. That's sad. I mean, they play the worst music on TRL and their music videos, yet on lame shows like "Rich Girls", I have actually heard pretty good music.. those musicians never get acknowledged, though. It's not cool at all.
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Postby Reyna » 12/13/2003, 11:58 am

yeah. A few days ago I was watching some show about rich pop stars on VH1 (hah i'm lame) and they played the Postal Service in the background, and didn't even mention them in the credits.

yeah, most music I hear on the radio these days is not quite my style, but some of it is good (Coldplay) and for the most part I avoid listening to the radio.

and hey, everytime anyone asks you what kind of music you listen to, just say "awesome rock." That's what I do.
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Postby the android » 12/14/2003, 10:27 am

The music industry is in shambles. There is no such thing as integrity anymore, it's rare for anyone to write all of their own music, and anyone can get a record deal.

Think about what's popular now.

And think about what was popular 10, 20 years ago.

The quality of the shit that sells today is horrendous.

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Postby big_green_monkey » 12/14/2003, 4:14 pm

hhmm...does anyone think maybe there are more people out there that like good music than pop music? if so, aren't we just kidding ourselves by playing this shit on the radio? if it's the opposite, then music has definately just become something that people move to while they're dancing or turn on while they are driving.

what i don't get is how bands like default and forty foot echo get fucking record deals. their music is nothing special at all so there's no point listening to it.

just think, if we keep at the pace we are going at, 10 years from now every band will sound like default. i guess the name is kind of fitting...
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Postby nelison » 12/14/2003, 4:18 pm

the deep voice thing is just a fad... bands like Nickleback, Default, Creed, and even OLP (if Raine continues at his pace) won't be around much longer. Fads come and go almost yearly now. It's not as slow as it was in even the 90's.

For all we know next years fad is sitting in a gutter somewhere right now. No one knew Avril was coming and now all we have is little girls walking around with ties.
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Postby Random Name » 12/14/2003, 4:25 pm

as long as britney spears is selling upwards of 55 million albums worldwide we will be stuck listening to her.
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Postby Bananababy » 12/14/2003, 8:47 pm

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Postby Narbus » 12/14/2003, 11:25 pm

Okay, look.

Comparing what you hear on the radio right now to all that "great, groundbreaking, wonderful music" of yesteryear simply isn't fair. Let's look back even a handful of years to when that god awful LFO "Summer Girls" song was the huge thing, or even more recently to when O Town had hit singles. The CD's sold a ton, they had a shit-load of airplay, etc etc and so forth.

Where are they now?

The music of yesteryear is, obviously, the music that's stood the test of time, so of course it's going to be good and have some quality about it that's simply timeless. Duh. You are neglecting to notice all the crap that came out back then, too, because it was crap and fell off the face of the Earth.

Yes, there is a lot of crap going on in the music industry, yes there is crap being released. This doesn't somehow fortell the downfall of art nor is it a harbinger of the death of the human spirit. It's just how things are.

Hell, we went through hair bands in the 80's, and finally fell into Nirvana and the like. We dealt with Boy Bands and came out it into the White Stripes.

The basic fact of the matter is 90% of anything is crap. But to compare everything nowadays with the 10% of stuff that was quality 20, 30 years ago and cry that the sky is falling is just wrong.
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Postby Dabekk » 12/15/2003, 1:09 am

hey, that's true, pretty much 90% of anything IS crap . . . except for crap of course. :lol:
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Postby I AM ME » 12/15/2003, 2:04 pm

"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

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I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

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Postby Random Name » 12/15/2003, 2:23 pm

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Postby Narbus » 12/15/2003, 5:31 pm

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Postby Sufjan Stevens » 12/15/2003, 5:59 pm

Wow, it's real hard to pick out one line from an entire song. Last time I checked, good songs try to tell stories. Let's go ahead and pick out crappy lines from songs you might like Narbus.

"Oh I, I have been good, I understood"

"Are you there? Is it wonderful?"

"Do you worry that you're not liked?"

"Has anybody wasted tears on loneliness that everyone becomes?"

"the entire Gravity album"

"Oh life is waiting for you"

Wow, if we really wanted to be critical about one line from a song, it would be pretty easy to say that OLP has had absolutely no discernable talent for songwriting. Jackass.
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