titanMAX wrote:They really don't have to do this. For years we all thought that this stuff would never reach our ears. Out of the blue they announce the Vault and have given us 14 or so cool tracks in a little over a year. I
It has mostly been Healthy stuff but so what? As Matt has already said Duncan has had trouble finding Happiness and Spiritual Machines stuff and we already know a bunch about Naveed when it comes to demos and songs left off of it. We don't know if any of those songs around Naveed have been done in studio.
I agree that that they should've probably thrown more Curve and Burn Burn(maybe also Clumsy) stuff in between Healthy releases but I don't think that they really pay attention to stuff like that.
xjsb125 wrote:It's an interesting take on what became Boy. I like Boy, it holds particular meaning as a father of two boys. I like this take, though not my favorite vault release to date. Always interesting to see how some of these songs came to form HIPT. As for the comment about Steve's comments on the track being lame. Really? Only thing lame is that comment itself. Of course there will be more releases from HIPT. 46 songs in multiple variations over a 3 year span. Probably more than any other 3 albums combined. It would be very easy to burn through the back catalog of old and unreleased. The vault could be an ongoing thing, or we could use it up in a year or two. I'd rather it have some staying power.
faninor wrote:Now that we know Boy was once called Street Fight (Weight of the World), I'm wondering again if it may be the last song on the 1st page seen in the 2004 holiday greeting. I've always seen "Weight of the Lord" or "Weight of the Word," but perhaps it is a very sloppy "world?"
xjsb125 wrote:I think the biggest issue I have with complaints are the ones that don't deal directly with the music itself. I can understand a complaint that says "I didn't like this song because the guitar is too weak/Raine didn't falsetto enough/the lyrics bore me, etc." The complaints I can't understand are the ones that gripe about the accompanying notes, releasing demos and early versions of songs, releasing songs from certain periods, not releasing X unreleased song. That's what gets me, Megs, and a few others. The early versions of Superman's Dead, Are You Sad, and Consequences didn't really do anything for me, because I didn't really feel anything from the music.
Stefano, I agree about the scrapped HIPT songs. It sounds like there were a lot of really great songs that got cut, or got molded into something else.
xjsb125 wrote:the ones that gripe about the accompanying notes
Long Jonny wrote:Honestly, I'm starting to feel bad for the ones who are complaining in this thread. I just feel bad for them. Something is not right about these guys. I've never heard grown adults act like such children over the fact that they aren't getting what they want. It must be hard to wake up every morning with such a negative attitude, and I really hope they get the help they need. I feel for you guys.
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