govtschemes wrote:Buying t shirts does not make you a fan.
And what do you mean by "hands out of your pants?"......grow up. I am not rubbing Mikes back, I am not a fan, I just appreciate his intelligence towards the band and what he contributed to it. Afterall the way I see it he did start it, and going by the direction the band went when he left - he was the brains.
Hiring Bob Rock is not a "brainy" decision, but Our Lady Peace clearly don't want to read into history. Just look what happened with that St Anger Metallica album. I know what your gonna say "that album came out in 2003!"......I know!.....but they should of checked the albums he did before.
And Spiritual Machines is a great album because of Ray Kurzweils book, and to say he did not inspire the music on it is stupid, because from listening to it, I hear alot relating to it.
It seems to me alot of people on here are Radiohead fans......good band, mostly, but everything they have released since 2003 at least - has been utter rubbish. Like another band I can think of.
As for travelling to see the band, I might just fly to Canada one day to see them, when they release a decent album, Raine actually sounds like he interested in singing and Mike Turner is onstage with them.
At least I appreciate the contribution the band made to music in general and recognise their potential rather than destroying it, like they did in 2002.
By the way, have you read Ray Kurzweils book?.......
Never said buying a shirt makes me a fan. But... why else would I buy a T-shirt. I'm not spending $35 for a garage rag.
You're telling me to grow up when you can't seem to understand this entire ordeal and just seem to be here to complain about a band you no longer enjoy? Ha. And I never said to keep your "hands out of your pants," whatever you do alone is your business.
Hiring Bob was a logical move to expand their audiences. And it DID work. How is that not "brainy." Nobody likes Bob, but he did accomplish the whole reason they and the label went for him. But they should have dropped him once they realized during HIPT that it wasn't helping them any longer and just straining them.
Did you not read what I said about Ray? I said, verbatim,
"It might have inspired some of it, but it's really not even close to "make music about this book."' Did you read that part... I didn't say it didn't inspire the album. I said it didn't shape the entire album or every song or even every part of a song. You could almost take out any reference to his book, no matter how slight, and it could be 80% the same.
Now you're saying you're not a fan of Mike? What the hell, man. You're contradicting yourself all over the place now.
I really don't care much for Radiohead, but I do see the appeal of them. They're creative. Just like another band I can think of.
Luckily for us, we'll never bump into you at a show then, since Mike will NEVER be back on guitar or any instrument. And you've obviously never seen Raine sing live presently. The man will fucking destroy your senses. And while I still dig the new studio albums, I still get a bit disappointed with his voice, at least on Burn Burn. But nothing will beat him live, past or present.
Who's destroying anything? The old albums... They're still there! Hell, up until a few years ago, I could buy Happiness... at a my local Best Buy. And on any online music provider. Oh, and the band also sells them on their website. Just 3 years ago, they played two of the four "golden age" albums in their entirety on a pretty big tour. They didn't clear out there past and wipe everything clean.
You can, to this day, still hear influences on newer stuff that they did a decade ago. They've found what they liked or worked well and went forward with it, took out some stuff that didn't work so hot, and then... *gasp* wanted to keep evolving.They've made the decision to keep evolving, as any band or person should.
I thank God that they aren't stuck in the past. I mean, look at Nickelback. They fucking make the same album over and over and 'holy shit, can they just stop.' But, that was a bad example, since they were never a good band. However, they were quite the popular band in the early to mid 00's.
Oh, and Yeah, I've read enough of The Age of Spiritual Machines to realize that while he has some influential ideas as a futurist, it really wasn't the main focus of the band on the record and was just used as an ideological rough outline that they can use to fill some of the songs with.
Damn, this was a bigger post than I though, but I feel like it was a waste of bandwidth, as it's obvious that it won't change anything.