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by **starvingeyes** » 8/9/2002, 12:05 pm

the new our lady peace is 1/45th as good as the old our lady peace.

what's changed?

i'm sure Steve Mazur is a great guy and a wicked guitar player, but a. those are mike turners song's he's playing and b. the best song on gravity [ bring back the sun ] would be the worst song on any of the other records.

emtee.org < --- i think that about sums up my position on the mike v steve debate. when our lady peace makes a record with steve playing that sounds anywhere close to as good as the ones they made with emtee, then i might rethink my stance.

by **CODITH** » 8/9/2002, 12:51 pm

by **starvingeyes** » 8/9/2002, 1:31 pm

by **UltraViolet** » 8/9/2002, 2:53 pm

by **Joey** » 8/9/2002, 3:15 pm

I really like Gravity .. with or without Mike .. but I don't miss Mike at all and I wasn't upset with Mike leaving. I'm very happy with Steve and I doubt Gravity would have been as good with Mike since Mike didn't like the way they were going with Gravity. When you're not happy with a record then you're not going to enjoy playing the songs as much. Steve came along at a really good time :nod:

He loves what he's doing, he's happy, he's talented and he shows it .. there's a whole new energy with the band now that was lacking before.

by **starvingeyes** » 8/9/2002, 3:54 pm

if mike was playing on the record it probably wouldn't sound the way it does. if they had stuck to playing the style of music that satisfied mike [ and me ] i wouldn't be complaining, and mike probably wouldn't have left.

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i've seen our lady peace play 5 shows with mike turner present and i would not say they were anywhere close to lacking "energy". this "he limited us"/"we lacked energy"/"he didn't want to be heard" stuff is just a limp dick cop-out from admitting that they wanted to sell more records, which is the reality we need to deal with. i'd say the guitar prescence on a song like, o i don't know, "starseed" or "made to heal", for instance is alot more noticeable then on "all for you".

there was nothing wrong with mike turner's guitar playing. i find it highly ironic that raine will say that mike "didn't want to be heard" when this record, the one without mike, has the least guitar prescence of any of them.

by **Joey** » 8/9/2002, 4:12 pm

I saw 3 shows with Mike and 1 show with Steve and I felt much more energy coming off that stage with Steve than I ever felt with Mike .. Mike was an awesome guitar player but so is Steve. From what I've heard and seen Steve plays every show like it's his last and that makes for an incredible sounding show on his end.

by **Susan** » 8/9/2002, 4:31 pm

But I'm sure you must have said the shows you saw with Mike were incredible. They said they wanted somebody who was "one with their guitar." What more do you want?

by **starvingeyes** » 8/9/2002, 4:33 pm

by **Joey** » 8/9/2002, 4:43 pm

by **UltraViolet** » 8/9/2002, 4:44 pm

by **Axtech** » 8/9/2002, 5:20 pm

The reason you didn't notice a difference is that Steve is currently just playing Mike's work.

I really want to hear Steve do a record. After listening to the live Naveed/Life intro that he did, I think his work could be just as great as Mikes, but in a completely different way...

by **Joey** » 8/9/2002, 5:29 pm

I wish people would stop saying that Steve is 'just doing Mike's work' cuz he's doing more than that .. I think each musician adds something different and I can plainly see that in Steve :nod:

The intro's and solo's I've heard him do has proven he's quite capable of doing some excellent work.

by **UltraViolet** » 8/9/2002, 5:38 pm

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by **UltraViolet** » 8/10/2002, 5:52 pm

by **Joey** » 8/10/2002, 7:00 pm

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