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Postby .:x:Marissa:x:. » 11/21/2003, 10:38 pm


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Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?


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Postby Sufjan Stevens » 11/21/2003, 10:58 pm

I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Postby Joey » 11/21/2003, 11:03 pm

I don't believe in heaven or hell .. I don't believe in god.
I don't think people are divided up on how 'good' they were in life ..
I don't really have an opinion on what happens afterwards .. though it scares me that I may never see my dad again and not knowing where he is right now.
I don't really want there to be just nothing afterwards either ..
Death itself doesn't scare me .. the 'afterlife' doesn't scare me either ..

I just don't like not knowing where my dad is :( or if he's anywhere :(
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Postby .:x:Marissa:x:. » 11/21/2003, 11:04 pm

Well I personally havent made up my mind about this yet.
I don't want to believe that when I die, I just decompose and my existence is gone, meaningless. But in some ways it does make sense.
I guess the question we have to ask ourselves is if humans are special, do they have a soul? Do all animals have a soul? Do souls move on? If not are humans just a highly evolved creature that has a high intelligence to help us survive?
I also refuse to believe that the millions of ghosts sightings reported in the past have all been a lie. How can all of them be fake?
I really hope our soul moves on somewhere, perhaps to a parallel world or something *ponder*

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Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?


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Postby .:x:Marissa:x:. » 11/21/2003, 11:06 pm

...and Joey...I'm really sorry to hear about your dad :(
I have lost people I loved in my life, and I know how it feels.
I want to know where they are.

Guy: Her locker's down the hall, I've counted 17 from mine.
Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?


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Postby Joey » 11/21/2003, 11:09 pm

I believe animals and humans have souls ..
I have to believe that ..
At the moment of death, the person's soul leaves ..
All that's left is just their body, an empty shell of who they used to be ..their soul has already moved on somewhere .. I think if that person led a good life, their soul is free and they don't feel any pain or any hurt or any regret ..
I also think souls can be trapped though .. sort of inbetween .. maybe because they're scared to move on, or they feel they have things left to do before they go ..
meh .. I dunno :( The souls that are sorta caught inbetween are the ghost sightings etc .. the ones who haven't moved on yet for whatever reason ..
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Postby Sufjan Stevens » 11/21/2003, 11:16 pm

But if there was a parellel world, or something more after death, we'd have some way to prove it. At this moment, no one can say there's proof of a heaven or hell. We just make these things up to help us sleep better when a family member or close person dies. It's sad, but true. I don't believe that after I die I am going to live a plush life.

I guess I am trying to say we don't have souls. That's not possible. What would make you or I any better than my cat or a turtle? There's no difference between us. We say that the ability to feel emotions, but we don't know if animals can't feel the same way? We just don't know this. That's the only thing that really separates us from animals, that and opposable thumbs. I just don't think that there's anything so special about a human being that makes me worthy of having a soul or a place for me when I die, well, more so than a dog. I mean, humans are rather complex beings and very intelligent (some are), but just because we posess intelligence doesn't mean we have a place for us to go upon death. We are just highly evolved animals.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Postby .:x:Marissa:x:. » 11/21/2003, 11:18 pm

you talk about proving it though. scientific advances happen all the time. Maybe someday they'll find a way to prove it for sure.

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Postby Joey » 11/21/2003, 11:22 pm

I think animals definitely have emotions and can feel sadness, pain, hurt, confusion just like humans can .. every single animal I've had has clearly shown that. So there's no question about that for me. I really don't think there's a difference between animals and humans when it comes to souls though .. I'm not making any sense :(
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Postby starseed_10 » 11/21/2003, 11:22 pm

i believe in Catholic beliefs.. i think it's not as easy as a lot of people think to make it to heaven though, which scares me and puts me through unbelievable stress. ack.
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Postby Sufjan Stevens » 11/21/2003, 11:25 pm

But I am concerned about my lifetime. If there is a way to prove there is something more than life, I want to know about it before I die. I want a way to feel safe when I go to bed, and knowing that when I die, I have a place for my existance to continue. Sure, it sounds selfish, but what good will it do if someone discovers heaven and hell a year after I'm gone? These places just become meaningless to me after I die, because I am sent to spend eternity there. It's the same way as how we take living here on earth for granted. It's nice, but we care more about our lives than the place we live them on. Heaven and hell are only meaningful during life, because we want comfort in life that when we die, that's not the end. If we find out after we die, that's fine, but it will be taken for granted because that's our mental nature. Beyond that, I don't know what to say on this bit of info on this topic.

I am going to bed now (work = 5am) so when I come home from work tomorrow, there better be loads of interesting theories damnit. I want conversation here.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Postby Henrietta » 11/21/2003, 11:28 pm

I think all animals have souls. If you've had a pet, you know. It's just a different kind of soul.

I definitely believe in life after death. It's part of my religion. But I believe that after you die you go to the spirit world. If you're generally good, you just kind of live there and wait for judgement day. If you kill people and shit, you go to spirit "prison" and wait for judgement day. Then of course, on judgement day, God jugdes you based on the life you've lead and you'll be resurrected. I know I'm going to get knocked for this, but I've prayed about it, and I know it's true. It's just something you'd have to experience.
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Postby Joey » 11/21/2003, 11:28 pm

I have such a hatred for the catholic religion and the idea of 'god' that i can't possibly believe in heaven and hell .. it makes me angry. I don't want there to be a heaven and hell in the biblical sense .. I'd be that lost soul wandering around trying to kill myself again to get away from there. :lol:
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Postby .:x:Marissa:x:. » 11/22/2003, 7:40 am


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