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Postby starvingeyes » 3/29/2006, 1:01 pm

so long as you mean "something profoundly uncool".

topic of an essay i read in Esquire this weekend.

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Postby I AM ME » 3/29/2006, 11:42 pm

It's rather derogatory to gay people then, when being gay is synomonous with being "profoundly uncool".

Although I do think sometimes some people go over board with it when a person is clearly not trying to be offenisve to anyone.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

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Postby I AM ME » 3/29/2006, 11:45 pm

I work for a gay man, and it annoys him when "Gay" is used that way, he doesn't get really mad unless it's open gay bashing, but it does irritate him.

On the other hand because we're comfortable together, I can say "I feel gay listing to this" when he's playing Maddona, not because I feel bad, or because i feel dumb. Just that...I feel like a gay man listening to Maddona, lol nothing meant bad.


Ok that came out wrong and I'm sure I'll get jumped on for it, but keep in mind I work for a gay man, have gay friends, and am not homophobic.....just not good with words....
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Postby Lando » 3/30/2006, 3:00 am

This topic is so gay.
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Postby closeyoureyes » 3/30/2006, 9:30 am

My bestest friend is gay, he encourages us to use it. But then again, I just think it sounds uneducated, and to me higher education is paramount, so I wouldn't say it and would probably think of a person who did say it as unintelligent.
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Postby nikki4982 » 3/30/2006, 9:41 am

I AM ME wrote:On the other hand because we're comfortable together, I can say "I feel gay listing to this" when he's playing Maddona, not because I feel bad, or because i feel dumb. Just that...I feel like a gay man listening to Maddona, lol nothing meant bad.

:lol: No, don't worry, that didn't sound bad. Cos you didn't use the word in a negative way... you meant it in the stereotypical flamboyant way, and that's not really considered a negative thing in the gay community.
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Postby I AM ME » 3/30/2006, 3:47 pm

ok that's the point I'm trying to make, in some cases it acceptable if used as a joke, and teh person you're talking to understands that.

But in many casees it's mildy offensive, very offenisive to a few activisty types. Although I think if you're gay, and the worst thing you have to deal with is people using the word gay negatively you're pretty lucky.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Postby starvingeyes » 3/30/2006, 7:18 pm

I AM ME wrote:ok that's the point I'm trying to make, in some cases it acceptable if used as a joke, and teh person you're talking to understands that.

But in many casees it's mildy offensive, very offenisive to a few activisty types. Although I think if you're gay, and the worst thing you have to deal with is people using the word gay negatively you're pretty lucky.


that is pretty much what the article meant. he said if you're using it to refer to the people you still call faggots, i don't wanna meet you. but if you're using it the same way i did when i was 12 years old, then we can be friends.
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Postby closeyoureyes » 3/30/2006, 9:33 pm

Chris, is it just me or do you get uglier by the emo picture? Rhinoplasty! It's not that expensive anymore!
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Postby starvingeyes » 3/30/2006, 11:58 pm

closeyoureyes wrote:Chris, is it just me or do you get uglier by the emo picture? Rhinoplasty! It's not that expensive anymore!


i'm sorry, have we met? how do you know my name?

you saw me on myspace or something right? ok, listen. if you email a message to starvingeyesfanclub@telus.net, i will mail you an 8x10 glossy of myself, autographed and stuff.

for $24.99 you get a membership card and a special recorded message! oh boy!

now, can we please get back on topic here?

(sorry you guys, but i gotta be good to my fans, y'know?)
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Postby I AM ME » 3/31/2006, 1:21 am

Wow what was that all about?!?!?!?


And yes we can be friends :love:



:lol:
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Postby Lando » 3/31/2006, 2:51 am

starvingeyes wrote:
closeyoureyes wrote:Chris, is it just me or do you get uglier by the emo picture? Rhinoplasty! It's not that expensive anymore!


i'm sorry, have we met? how do you know my name?

you saw me on myspace or something right? ok, listen. if you email a message to starvingeyesfanclub@telus.net, i will mail you an 8x10 glossy of myself, autographed and stuff.

for $24.99 you get a membership card and a special recorded message! oh boy!

now, can we please get back on topic here?

(sorry you guys, but i gotta be good to my fans, y'know?)


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Postby closeyoureyes » 3/31/2006, 7:11 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby starvingeyes » 3/31/2006, 1:17 pm

lando i take it as long as it's money. i also take e-gold and liberty dollars.
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Postby AlyssWonders » 3/31/2006, 3:13 pm

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