By Brian Skoloff
ASSOCIATED PRESS
10:46 a.m. March 1, 2006
NAPLES, Fla.- If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or birth control.
The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at least $250 million and calls it "God's will."
Civil libertarians say the plan is unconstitutional and are threatening to sue.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nati ... ctown.html
Catholic Land!
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by happening fish » 3/1/2006, 10:51 pm
awkward is the new cool
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by closeyoureyes » 3/2/2006, 12:28 am
I don't see the harm in it. You choose to live there, so if you dislike it, leave, if you like it, don't!
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by Bandalero » 3/2/2006, 4:36 pm
as a catholic, i want to live there.
and make porn, catholic porn. in my catholic house, in my catholic town.
sinead, you up for that? that would rule!
and make porn, catholic porn. in my catholic house, in my catholic town.
sinead, you up for that? that would rule!
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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by I AM ME » 3/3/2006, 11:49 am
I agree with Sinead
Basically it's your choice to live there, somewhere I definatly wouldn't want to live, but that's why I won't.
It does bother me though how close it is to Islmaic extremism, although I'm sure tons of people will argue it's completely diffrent. How do you think this idea would go over if it was the exact same format but Islamic instead of Christian (tomato/tomahto)?
I'd be intrested to see the rate of unplanned pregnancies (marriages), and sexually transmitted disease in the town after a few decades. After all kids are gonna be kids eventually, and some of them are gonna have sex despite their faith, which could be tricky in a town with no protection.
Basically it's your choice to live there, somewhere I definatly wouldn't want to live, but that's why I won't.
It does bother me though how close it is to Islmaic extremism, although I'm sure tons of people will argue it's completely diffrent. How do you think this idea would go over if it was the exact same format but Islamic instead of Christian (tomato/tomahto)?
I'd be intrested to see the rate of unplanned pregnancies (marriages), and sexually transmitted disease in the town after a few decades. After all kids are gonna be kids eventually, and some of them are gonna have sex despite their faith, which could be tricky in a town with no protection.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by Random Name » 3/3/2006, 12:52 pm
Ultimately, you can't stop an idea. Once people know about abortion and birth control, its not going to go away. If people want to live in a place that doesn't support that, fine. It really doesn't impact the rest of the world. There are already pleanty of communities across North America that essentially have the same principles anyway, they just arn't formal.
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
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by happening fish » 3/3/2006, 1:27 pm
I thought America was meant to be based on religious freedom. Various denominations can't just go around claiming chunks of land for themselves just because one of them's stacked from making pizzas.
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by I AM ME » 3/6/2006, 2:57 pm
I'd also like to add someone should check up on Jefferson's grave and make sure it's still intact. Jefferson must be spinning wildly.
People have the freedom to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone as far as I'm concerned though. Although i don't agree with this sort of thing at all.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by closeyoureyes » 3/6/2006, 6:10 pm
I'm Catholic but I wouldn't live in Catholic Land. Cept on my trips to see Reno, and make videos for catholic currency. 
sinead
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by beautiful liar » 3/6/2006, 6:47 pm
so long as god's will involves yummy domino's pizza it's fine by me
...the thing i'd worry most about is the education there - children being brought up with fundamentalist views, in a closed environment without access to other ideas, and knowledge.
however, people will raise their children as they see fit, and there's not much others can do to intervene no matter where they live.
if they want to live in a conclave, well i suppose that's their perrogative. however, denying others the right to live there (why they would want to is beyond me) is not. at least they arent trying to convert an existing settlement.
...the thing i'd worry most about is the education there - children being brought up with fundamentalist views, in a closed environment without access to other ideas, and knowledge.
however, people will raise their children as they see fit, and there's not much others can do to intervene no matter where they live.
if they want to live in a conclave, well i suppose that's their perrogative. however, denying others the right to live there (why they would want to is beyond me) is not. at least they arent trying to convert an existing settlement.
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by closeyoureyes » 3/6/2006, 7:17 pm
Kids who go to public school could still be educated in their homes(and be more affected) by their religious teachings.
Alot of the catholic church is okay though so
Alot of the catholic church is okay though so
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by bovine » 3/6/2006, 7:48 pm
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER!!!
The story in this thread has nothing to do with this song...
http://benfolds.bluni.com/display.php?songid=245
The story in this thread has nothing to do with this song...
http://benfolds.bluni.com/display.php?songid=245
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Brutus is an honorable man
It's just coincidence that oil men will wage war in an oil rich land
And this one goes out to my man taking cover in the trenches with a gun in his hand
Then gets home and no one flinches when he can't feed his fam...
But Brutus is an honorable man...
- Saul Williams
Brutus is an honorable man
It's just coincidence that oil men will wage war in an oil rich land
And this one goes out to my man taking cover in the trenches with a gun in his hand
Then gets home and no one flinches when he can't feed his fam...
But Brutus is an honorable man...
- Saul Williams
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by beautiful liar » 3/6/2006, 8:33 pm
beautiful liar wrote:however, people will raise their children as they see fit, and there's not much others can do to intervene no matter where they live.
closeyoureyes wrote:Kids who go to public school could still be educated in their homes(and be more affected) by their religious teachings.
exactly
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by I AM ME » 3/6/2006, 11:33 pm
Wow
We all half agree on something. Good for us.
Just to stir up shit though, what do you guys think would happen if the exact same thing were to happen except with a township run by Islamic beliefs instead?
We all half agree on something. Good for us.
Just to stir up shit though, what do you guys think would happen if the exact same thing were to happen except with a township run by Islamic beliefs instead?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by I AM ME » 3/6/2006, 11:49 pm
Something along those lines
Most people now equate "Terror" with "Islam". Of course that only proves their own ignorance to an entire religion. One that happens to be quite close to Christianity. Both being children of Judaism.
Most people now equate "Terror" with "Islam". Of course that only proves their own ignorance to an entire religion. One that happens to be quite close to Christianity. Both being children of Judaism.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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