nikki4982 wrote:Sinead and Taylor, I like how you two are all pissy about this, yet if you believed in any other religion you'd have the complete opposite stance and would be just as angry about whatever religion you are not having enough say because the Christians are overly represented.
How about you look at things objectively? Also, realize that this country (yes, THIS one, not Canada... I know nothing about how Canada was formed, but this "Catholic Land" crap is happening HERE in America, not Canada) is based on the belief that religion should be kept out of government.
And cut the sarcasm and condescending attitude toward people who aren't christian. It's incredibly childish. You wouldn't appreciate that attitude toward your religion at all.
Joe Cooler wrote:nikki4982 wrote:How about you look at things objectively? Also, realize that this country (yes, THIS one, not Canada... I know nothing about how Canada was formed, but this "Catholic Land" crap is happening HERE in America, not Canada) is based on the belief that religion should be kept out of government.
Perhaps religion should be kept out of government but that does not mean religous people should be.
Joe Cooler wrote:How about you look at things objectively? Also, realize that this country (yes, THIS one, not Canada... I know nothing about how Canada was formed, but this "Catholic Land" crap is happening HERE in America, not Canada) is based on the belief that religion should be kept out of government.
Perhaps religion should be kept out of government but that does not mean religous people should be.
Kathy14 wrote:I didn't realize there were new posts in this thread since my post, and I have no idea how you jumped to those comments from what I said. Geez. No one has a clue what religion I practise but assumes I'm NOT religious AT ALL just because I have issues with mixing religion and politics?
Dr. Hobo wrote:Joe Cooler wrote:nikki4982 wrote:How about you look at things objectively? Also, realize that this country (yes, THIS one, not Canada... I know nothing about how Canada was formed, but this "Catholic Land" crap is happening HERE in America, not Canada) is based on the belief that religion should be kept out of government.
Perhaps religion should be kept out of government but that does not mean religous people should be.
thats not the point tho
no one is saying that religious people should be kept out of the govt but more so that religion should be kept seperate from politics... simply put, if you allow religion to lead or influence politics, you get the current mess in iraq.
Joe Cooler wrote:Dr. Hobo wrote:Joe Cooler wrote:nikki4982 wrote:How about you look at things objectively? Also, realize that this country (yes, THIS one, not Canada... I know nothing about how Canada was formed, but this "Catholic Land" crap is happening HERE in America, not Canada) is based on the belief that religion should be kept out of government.
Perhaps religion should be kept out of government but that does not mean religous people should be.
i did not mean i THAT way at all... i just mean the current attempts to create a working government/constitution but are facing difficulities due to the various religious sects in the country who are feuding.I really caution you from implying that religion is the reason the US is in Iraq.
thats pretty much what everyone has been saying all alongSecondly, I don't think a religious leader should be expected to lay aside their beliefs. It is who they are. However, this does not mean that a religious leader should hold a political stance and back it with their religious beliefs. For example, a leader should not say that abortion is wrong because "the Bible says so."
it makes sense and heres the problem i see with it... theres been times when a potential candidate for the supreme court have been deemed "not likely to hold up the views of the religious right" and so on and so forth... thats the biggest reasons people get testy when something like this comes upHowever, if 3 religious judges are againts an issue and are able to defend their position without relying on religious statements, then their opinion should not be discounted simply they are a typical religious view. Does that make sense? I hope so.
I really caution you from implying that religion is the reason the US is in Iraq.
i did not mean i THAT way at all...
Secondly, I don't think a religious leader should be expected to lay aside their beliefs. It is who they are. However, this does not mean that a religious leader should hold a political stance and back it with their religious beliefs. For example, a leader should not say that abortion is wrong because "the Bible says so."
Yes I know. I'm just stating my position on the matter.thats pretty much what everyone has been saying all along
Joe Cooler wrote:Perhaps religion should be kept out of government but that does not mean religous people should be.
Joe Cooler wrote:nikki4982 wrote:Sinead and Taylor, I like how you two are all pissy about this, yet if you believed in any other religion you'd have the complete opposite stance and would be just as angry about whatever religion you are not having enough say because the Christians are overly represented.
I don't speak for Sinead but honestly I would not be angry if I belonged to another religion or was athiest.
And cut the sarcasm and condescending attitude toward people who aren't christian. It's incredibly childish. You wouldn't appreciate that attitude toward your religion at all.
closeyoureyes wrote:And cut the sarcasm and condescending attitude toward people who aren't christian. It's incredibly childish. You wouldn't appreciate that attitude toward your religion at all.
That attitude is the norm towards religious people/religion on this board, are you kidding? Well, no, it's worse than some childish little sarcastic remarks back and forth most of the time.
closeyoureyes wrote:I don't feel descriminated against, it is the norm to religion bash, its socially acceptable.
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