I didn't intend to say that people are complaining, they are just sharing their stories, but there are people and cases in which we all know that complaints are being made.
I think help is extremely easy to get. There are thousands of resources out there that can help people, they just have to have the guts to admit that they, or the people around them have a problem.
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 1:26 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 1:35 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 1:47 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by the android » 4/8/2003, 2:00 pm
x - <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/~handshakeofco">livejournal</a>
x - <a href="http://ahree.deviantart.com">deviantart</a>
x - <a href="http://ahree.deviantart.com">deviantart</a>
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 2:44 pm
Obviously, but if it is very serious (abuse of any sorts, suicide, etc) the best trained people to deal with your problems aren't a bunch of kids on a message board.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 2:50 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by Joey » 4/8/2003, 2:56 pm
Nobody is taking their advice, obviously .. it's simply nice being able to talk to someone who knows and undestands and might be feeling the same thing you are. People like that are more help to me than anyone else. Plus I don't come on here looking for support or 'someone to turn too' .. I simply come here to talk.
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 3:00 pm
I think that's what we all do. We just come here because we have a common interest, that being OLP,
I just hope people don't come here seriously looking for advice about serious situations that can be the matter of life/death or anything that can be of harm to yourselves and those around you. That was just the message I was trying to get across.
I just hope people don't come here seriously looking for advice about serious situations that can be the matter of life/death or anything that can be of harm to yourselves and those around you. That was just the message I was trying to get across.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by Sufjan Stevens » 4/8/2003, 3:28 pm
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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by happening fish » 4/8/2003, 3:44 pm
Ok, that was the Alan version, now this is the Alex version.
Jim. Buddy. I know you're well-meaning, but the truth is that life's problems are never as simple as someone on the outside thinks they seem. Obviously, you have not experienced any major emotional or personal problems, or perhaps you have and you are a special breed of person who can take it all in stride. Now, most people, myself included, just can't do that. I realize that you're only trying to help and that your seemingly harsh words stem only from some slight naivety in this subject, but sometimes people just need to vent. Dig?
Jim. Buddy. I know you're well-meaning, but the truth is that life's problems are never as simple as someone on the outside thinks they seem. Obviously, you have not experienced any major emotional or personal problems, or perhaps you have and you are a special breed of person who can take it all in stride. Now, most people, myself included, just can't do that. I realize that you're only trying to help and that your seemingly harsh words stem only from some slight naivety in this subject, but sometimes people just need to vent. Dig?
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by nelison » 4/8/2003, 5:57 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by Joey » 4/8/2003, 7:09 pm
I think the reason it seems 'harsh' is because you sort of lost credability when you said you can't really relate to any of this. So basically you're on the outside looking in and trying to understand, and there's nothing wrong with that. You just have to realize that people's problems/issues whatever, go a lot deeper than I'm sure you can even imagine. So when you're talking about it being so easy to get help, that comes off the wrong way. If it was so easy to get help, there wouldn't be so many fucked up people in this world and if you want to major in psych then you will need to learn to sort of step back and look at it from another person's perspective, once you know the full story .. and in none of these cases do you know the full story, so you can't really make it seem so easy, it's not .. working with kids who have emotional problems is very tough, definitely not easy and these kids aren't gonna want to be told "ok, here's what you do, it's real easy." Nothing in life is easy.
I guess what I'm trying to say is .. while you're trying to understand what it's like, don't downplay people's problems as something easily fixed with 1 phone call, that's all.
I guess what I'm trying to say is .. while you're trying to understand what it's like, don't downplay people's problems as something easily fixed with 1 phone call, that's all.
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