oh for the love of god.
okay, heres a little history lession.
Polygamy is concidered to be a religion. Everyone clear on that? Good. Because its also concidered to be illegal in all 50 states and across canada. Want to know why? Because since the 1800's its been concidered an excuse for men (because women have absolutely no benifits) to gain power, through greed and force. It promotes statutory rape, incest, physical, emotional and psychological abuse. If you haven't noticed its something that we think is morally wrong, yet you people are defending it. So don't try to claim that it has any elements of equality because there are countless present day cases around the world that can prove that wrong.
Gay Marriage
by hpdfk » 2/26/2004, 3:57 pm
I'm glad a gay marriage ban is being proposed because it's just one more reason to hate Bush. Everyone seems to forget all the stupid things bush does, like banning stem cell research. No one remembers that pre-9/11 stuff. The more stupid things he does before elections the better.
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by Random Name » 2/26/2004, 4:08 pm
Okay, I'll give you this, marriage was a religious term. That is where it was founded and it remains a sacrament in many different religions.
But in North American the government made is a legal issue. There are benifits and set backs to being married and a lot of paperwork. So while marriage will always remain a religious thing, that doesn't mean there are non-religious ceremonies. Many people are choosing to get married through the state which is fine but more choose to go through the church. Mainly because of tradition though. Unfortunately that means that we cannot force any religion to preform same sex marriages, the same way a church can deny a heterosexual marriage.
I think a few people have said something very wise here - Just because the church denounces it, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to.
And if you think that way, to me it sort of implies that because you believe something everyone else should. Obviously that isn't the intent but people are forcing their values onto someone unrelated. That isn't fair at all. I don't know of anyone who has been offended by a same sex couple, or found any logical reason to be against it.
But in North American the government made is a legal issue. There are benifits and set backs to being married and a lot of paperwork. So while marriage will always remain a religious thing, that doesn't mean there are non-religious ceremonies. Many people are choosing to get married through the state which is fine but more choose to go through the church. Mainly because of tradition though. Unfortunately that means that we cannot force any religion to preform same sex marriages, the same way a church can deny a heterosexual marriage.
I think a few people have said something very wise here - Just because the church denounces it, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to.
And if you think that way, to me it sort of implies that because you believe something everyone else should. Obviously that isn't the intent but people are forcing their values onto someone unrelated. That isn't fair at all. I don't know of anyone who has been offended by a same sex couple, or found any logical reason to be against it.
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by Tattooed Angels » 2/26/2004, 6:26 pm
this is all I am going to say about Homersexuals being allowed the same rights to marry as a hetersexual couple.
I for one think that if you find that one person that you want to spend your life with, then you are truly blessed.
I always thought marriage was a commitment between 2 people. It shouldn't matter if they are 2 women, 2 men or 1 man #& 1 woman. It is so sad in this day and age that so many people are ignorant to the homosexual population out there. It really gets to me. I am not homosexual or have homosexual relatives. I have had homosexual friend through out the years and they are no different then any other human I know as far as marriage and being in a relationship goes. For almost 20 years I have done volunteer work with the GMHC(gay men's health crisis)-for AIDS more then anything. This organization relies on the help of thousands of vounteers whether gay, straight, black or white.
I ,for one, am for Homosexuals marrying. Why shouldn't two people be allowed to be together? It really sickens me how their constitutional rights are being ignored. It all boils down to religion. Unfortuantely there are more religious voters out there then not.
What really irks me is in this day and age you actualy have the term Starter Marriage How come it is okay for Hetersexuals to have a starter marriage( I think it is your first marriage under 5 years) and still say it santifies marriage, yet if two men want to be married and stay together till death do them part that ruins the marriage. It really is all BS to me. I think it is great what the mayor of San Fran is doing. Granting marriages to homosexual couples. I won't get into it cause it really gets to me how people are still so much against Gays.
The only thing different between me and a Lesbian is I have sex with men, she has sex with woman. End of story. In the end we are all the same. We are looking for that one person who makes our life complete.
I for one think that if you find that one person that you want to spend your life with, then you are truly blessed.
I always thought marriage was a commitment between 2 people. It shouldn't matter if they are 2 women, 2 men or 1 man #& 1 woman. It is so sad in this day and age that so many people are ignorant to the homosexual population out there. It really gets to me. I am not homosexual or have homosexual relatives. I have had homosexual friend through out the years and they are no different then any other human I know as far as marriage and being in a relationship goes. For almost 20 years I have done volunteer work with the GMHC(gay men's health crisis)-for AIDS more then anything. This organization relies on the help of thousands of vounteers whether gay, straight, black or white.
I ,for one, am for Homosexuals marrying. Why shouldn't two people be allowed to be together? It really sickens me how their constitutional rights are being ignored. It all boils down to religion. Unfortuantely there are more religious voters out there then not.
What really irks me is in this day and age you actualy have the term Starter Marriage How come it is okay for Hetersexuals to have a starter marriage( I think it is your first marriage under 5 years) and still say it santifies marriage, yet if two men want to be married and stay together till death do them part that ruins the marriage. It really is all BS to me. I think it is great what the mayor of San Fran is doing. Granting marriages to homosexual couples. I won't get into it cause it really gets to me how people are still so much against Gays.
The only thing different between me and a Lesbian is I have sex with men, she has sex with woman. End of story. In the end we are all the same. We are looking for that one person who makes our life complete.
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by SpiritualJunkie » 2/27/2004, 1:30 am
And if I don't make it known that
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
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I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
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by I AM ME » 2/27/2004, 1:42 am
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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