Not true. Ever read the Bible? Eye for an eye? Stoning people for the tiniest offense? I don't think the world would be a better place if we all followed those ideals. Ever see godhatesfags.com or godhatesamerica.com ? Those people follow a very strict code of religious ethics, but could you imagine what kind of horrible place the world would be if they ran things?
Despite that, atheists tend to be very moral people, because we feel like we have to prove ourselves to those who think you can only be a good person if you believe in god.
Maybe I overreacted, but I'm sick and tired of hearing that the world would be a better place if people like me didn't exist.
Why do YOU think the world is going to hell?
by Sufjan Stevens » 7/5/2003, 11:02 pm
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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by joe_canadian » 7/5/2003, 11:11 pm
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by joe_canadian » 7/5/2003, 11:20 pm
I'm just stating another view Aerin, it's not even mine, I don't mean to offend, I'm just adding this to the gamut for discussion. 
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by One-Eye » 7/5/2003, 11:26 pm
I understand. I hope you didn't take my comment as attacking you personally. It's just that all I ever see on the news these days is episodes of hatred and violence, all based on intolerance. It's this idea that, if everyone were just more like US, the world would be better, and if they aren't sufficiently like US, well, we'll just kill them, or assimilate them, or alienate them.
I hate the us vs. them mentality. I hate that people are always seeking to draw lines between people: WE'RE straight, THEY'RE gay, WE'RE Christian, THEY'RE Muslim, WE'RE American, THEY'RE not. And then, ideas are built upon these distinction that WE are somehow better than THEY, that we are somehow more human than anyone else, and that justifies treating them as subhumans.
It makes me sick. Why can't we all just get along?
I hate the us vs. them mentality. I hate that people are always seeking to draw lines between people: WE'RE straight, THEY'RE gay, WE'RE Christian, THEY'RE Muslim, WE'RE American, THEY'RE not. And then, ideas are built upon these distinction that WE are somehow better than THEY, that we are somehow more human than anyone else, and that justifies treating them as subhumans.
It makes me sick. Why can't we all just get along?
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by joe_canadian » 7/5/2003, 11:28 pm
I agree with you totally. I know people who will say that it is a betrayal of their beliefs to not stand up for them, but I personally think you can have your beliefs and voice them, but you can not take away another person's freedom to choose.
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by I AM ME » 7/5/2003, 11:35 pm
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by I AM ME » 7/6/2003, 12:05 am
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by call me andrew » 7/6/2003, 11:46 am
and now its international security. the call of the righteous men.
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