corey you make an excellent point. all though chris and i do believe in absolute rights, there's really no way for us to prove that absolute rights do exist. it's just what we believe.
that's one of the reasons i hate the term anarchy, because it implies that there is no system. we are advocating a system, but the difference between it and all others is that market anarchism/freedom/minarchism/voluntaryism/whatever-you-want-to-call-it is that ours is a voluntary system that stems from the rational natural result of a community of uncoerced human souls.
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by nelison » 3/13/2003, 12:42 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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by nelison » 3/13/2003, 1:06 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by nelison » 3/13/2003, 2:07 pm
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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by Bandalero » 3/15/2003, 12:38 am
private police and/or bodyguards? we'd be going back to old hick days...
let's face it people have their own personal objectives and would use this to their advantage. this has been done in the past. In reguards to the king ranch:
This bad ass named Richard King had a huge track of land down here in present day kingsville. but as you all know buisness types and "mero mero's" are greedy sons of bitches. see the guy was loaded and to maximize his profits, he decided to buy his own private police. as in 100 or so gunslingers. what he did was he found out who the owner of the land next to him was and mobilized his own personal army against this guy and eventually killed him. Mr. King himself would later go to the widows of these poor guys and buy the land off of her, ripping her off big fucking time. cause let's face it, back then men did the buisness back in those days and women didn't have a clue to what the land was worth. It's rumored that my great grandfater was one of those "private policemen", and there are literally thousands of suits against the King Ranch of these accusations.
That's a probability of what can happen when you privatize your police. an individual in its own mind has his/her own modivations that only pertain to themself. And they will use whatever assets or slack you'll allow or not allow, just as long as they get what they want.
let's face it people have their own personal objectives and would use this to their advantage. this has been done in the past. In reguards to the king ranch:
This bad ass named Richard King had a huge track of land down here in present day kingsville. but as you all know buisness types and "mero mero's" are greedy sons of bitches. see the guy was loaded and to maximize his profits, he decided to buy his own private police. as in 100 or so gunslingers. what he did was he found out who the owner of the land next to him was and mobilized his own personal army against this guy and eventually killed him. Mr. King himself would later go to the widows of these poor guys and buy the land off of her, ripping her off big fucking time. cause let's face it, back then men did the buisness back in those days and women didn't have a clue to what the land was worth. It's rumored that my great grandfater was one of those "private policemen", and there are literally thousands of suits against the King Ranch of these accusations.
That's a probability of what can happen when you privatize your police. an individual in its own mind has his/her own modivations that only pertain to themself. And they will use whatever assets or slack you'll allow or not allow, just as long as they get what they want.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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by mosaik » 3/15/2003, 1:59 am
but reno, man, i think you're missing the point a little
a) corrupt cops exist in demockracy or any government.
b) the private police/bodyguards wouldn't be above the law because there wouldn't be a law. if they commited a murder they'd be held just as accountable as the next group.
a) corrupt cops exist in demockracy or any government.
b) the private police/bodyguards wouldn't be above the law because there wouldn't be a law. if they commited a murder they'd be held just as accountable as the next group.
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by Bandalero » 3/15/2003, 2:10 am
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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by liam » 3/15/2003, 10:01 am
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by Bandalero » 3/16/2003, 12:17 am
i'm going to make this alot clearer...Money Talks...Bullshit walks.
It doesn't matter what they outline in their own "laws" if someone with money demands that you do something against these laws and they show you enough money, they'll do whatever asked of them. that's the way it is now, and that won't change in your system. Right now Border patrol agents are being paid to look the other way by drug trafficers, and they're also getting a paycheck, medical benifits, and one kick ass pention from Uncle sam...life is good isn't it? Is he doing what's outlined in his laws and job duties? nope, but he's making alot more money doing that then just plain working.
It doesn't matter what they outline in their own "laws" if someone with money demands that you do something against these laws and they show you enough money, they'll do whatever asked of them. that's the way it is now, and that won't change in your system. Right now Border patrol agents are being paid to look the other way by drug trafficers, and they're also getting a paycheck, medical benifits, and one kick ass pention from Uncle sam...life is good isn't it? Is he doing what's outlined in his laws and job duties? nope, but he's making alot more money doing that then just plain working.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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