No more smoking in New York State

[Ignignokt]

[nelison]

Hey buddy, no offence but no one really cares much for what you say anymore. If you can't tell we're all pretty well ignoring you. This thread is pretty well done, and it's turned into a Dumb and Dumber thread. You were about a week or so too late.

Again thanks for making the CM a wonderful place to be.

Now back to what this thread is all about

[Ignignokt]

[Bandalero]

[bort8]

and in most places where the anti-smoking laws were put into effect were done so because they were voted on by the public....here in austin a smoking ban goes into effect on september 1, and i couldnt be happier

[Narbus]

[Lando]

[xjsb125]

[bort8]

[starvingeyes]

[Narbus]

[Bandalero]

[Narbus]

Still not answering the question. Your entire basis for the "rightness" of this law is "the majority said yes." So, is that justification acceptable for another situation, one where you are the one being told what you can, and cannot do with your property? It may not even be legal in another sense, but if the majority say go, is it fine?

[Bandalero]

[Narbus]

So. You now live in a landfill. And that's fine? No, you're not compensated, but hey. It was voted on, and they voted to not compensate you. And that's just fine with you. Right?

[bort8]

im not talking about just a bunch of random people standing there voting on something........if there was actually a proposition in a general election for it, then fine, what ya gonna do.....but i think the example isnt even comparable

[nelison]

we don;'t all vote every every single law. If that's the case then I think I've been grossly misinformed. We only vote for propositions as mentioned above, and we vote for the people who will make decisions for the population. They vote on those decisions. Now that we've caught you up on how democracy works...

There are laws in place that compensate the land owner if the govt feels the land could be of their use. If the govt decides your house would be better as a landfill, I'm sure they would offer you a very good sum of money for it. This happens a lot, especially when cities are looking to make progress with infrastructure. They don't just boot everyone to the street if they want the land.

[Narbus]

Missing the point. Both of you. Bandelero's entire defense for the act of outlawing smoking in bars was, "Well, the public voted on it." The majority is not always right, folks.

A more relevant example, since you seem to want one:
A proposition called the "good host" law is put up for a vote. Basically, it says there is no smoking inside ANY building, including private homes/apartments as the smoke makes the air unpleasant for any guests you may have over who don't smoke. The majority says "yea." Is this okay?

ps: J-Neli, you still haven't answered my point from earlier in the thread.

[Neil]

[nelison]