you are right, the new testament is also extremely violent, but the number of devout christians in the world has considerably decreased and it is common for people not to interpret the content as always appropriate in a modern society.
but in a mosque, you read the qu'ran word for word, no room for interpretation there. also, now it has come to the point that there are a considerable number of islamic terrorists considering this material as the absolute truth and that is why there is a thing such as terrorism today.
Explosions in London?
by Axtech » 7/19/2005, 8:07 am
I know a simple solution!
Let's just kill all the Muslims!
That will solve all the world's problems!
Because clearly all Muslims are violent murderers/terrorists.
And clearly no non-Muslim person has ever done anything wrong!
It's perfect!
Let's just kill all the Muslims!
That will solve all the world's problems!
Because clearly all Muslims are violent murderers/terrorists.
And clearly no non-Muslim person has ever done anything wrong!
It's perfect!
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by VazValium » 7/19/2005, 8:11 am
ok, i didn't even say kill all the muslims and i didn't even say all muslims are responsible, but all i am saying is that something needs to be done about the way religions are taught and practised in a modern society. or in other words, religions need to evolve and stop considering their religion as the correct one.
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by Axtech » 7/19/2005, 8:14 am
Okay, so your solution is to overturn a world-wide faith, because you feel their doctrine contains too much violence?
Why, then, are there peaceful Muslims?
You're still generalizing about a whole religion based on the actions of a small extremist group (small when compared to the size of the religion).
Why, then, are there peaceful Muslims?
You're still generalizing about a whole religion based on the actions of a small extremist group (small when compared to the size of the religion).
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by VazValium » 7/19/2005, 8:19 am
but these things happen because of the attitudes towards other religions. when islam was established, all other religions were 'abrogated' and all non-believers were condemned to hell. i am not saying christianity does not condemn people too, but why do non-believers have to be slain?
the reason why there are many peaceful muslims is because they don't follow the religion to such an extent where it contradicts with the laws of a modern society. but still there are people who are being taught these verses literally, hence creating the environment for terrorism to fluorish.
you can call the numbers of terrorists small compared to a religion, but when the number gets into the hundred thousands, i would call that quite large. the small extremist group is the most recent of many.
the reason why there are many peaceful muslims is because they don't follow the religion to such an extent where it contradicts with the laws of a modern society. but still there are people who are being taught these verses literally, hence creating the environment for terrorism to fluorish.
you can call the numbers of terrorists small compared to a religion, but when the number gets into the hundred thousands, i would call that quite large. the small extremist group is the most recent of many.
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by nelison » 7/19/2005, 9:15 am
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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by Rusty » 7/19/2005, 1:31 pm
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Once you're lost in twillights's blue
You don't find your way, the way finds you...
Tempt the fates, beware the smile
It hides all the teeth, my dear,
What's behind them...
So glad you could stay
Forever
He steps between the trees, a crooked man
There's blood on the blade
Don't take his hand
You warm by the firelight, in twilight's blue
Shadows creep & dance the walls
He's creeping too..
So glad you could stay
Forever
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by Long Jonny » 7/21/2005, 7:25 am
2 weeks to the day and we have more attacks.
My heart goes out to all the CMers in London... I'm left here wondering everyday now whether or not my sister will be OK in London.
My heart goes out to all the CMers in London... I'm left here wondering everyday now whether or not my sister will be OK in London.
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by Soozy » 7/21/2005, 10:44 am
Well, listening to the radio tonight it seems that rather than just being detonators they were actual bombs that didn't go off. Sounds pretty poor bomb making to me that none should go off, plus the fact that they went off at lunchtime when it's not very busy, but we'll wait and see.
It's scary though - the school holidays have just started so there will be loads of kids and families around during the day - one of my very good friends it taking his family for a day out in London tomorrow (before going to Tel Aviv for a business meeting next week!!)
Another group of people I work with went into London for a meeting, but got to Euston Station and all the tubes were closed and it's pretty near Warren Street (basically to get into town you either have to go past Kings Cross or Tavistock Square or Warren Street!) so they couldn't walk, so they just got back on the same train they'd just got off and came back.
It's wierd though - the breakfast DJ and his news guy are on the radio because they can't get home and the person who was mean to be on can't get in. And it's basically they'll play a song and then there'll be adverts and then there'll be the news and then the cycle repeats every 10 or 15 minutes. there's nothing on the tv though - though the cricket's still on.
My brother's talking of walking the 8-10 miles to get home tonight if the tubes don't run again (his train goes through Warren Street, but wasn't the same line today's bomb was on).
It's like the IRA are here all over again - but they didn't do things so regularly and tended to change where they attacked.
It's scary though - the school holidays have just started so there will be loads of kids and families around during the day - one of my very good friends it taking his family for a day out in London tomorrow (before going to Tel Aviv for a business meeting next week!!)
Another group of people I work with went into London for a meeting, but got to Euston Station and all the tubes were closed and it's pretty near Warren Street (basically to get into town you either have to go past Kings Cross or Tavistock Square or Warren Street!) so they couldn't walk, so they just got back on the same train they'd just got off and came back.
It's wierd though - the breakfast DJ and his news guy are on the radio because they can't get home and the person who was mean to be on can't get in. And it's basically they'll play a song and then there'll be adverts and then there'll be the news and then the cycle repeats every 10 or 15 minutes. there's nothing on the tv though - though the cricket's still on.
My brother's talking of walking the 8-10 miles to get home tonight if the tubes don't run again (his train goes through Warren Street, but wasn't the same line today's bomb was on).
It's like the IRA are here all over again - but they didn't do things so regularly and tended to change where they attacked.
Open your eyes to nights and days, you close them up and float away
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
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