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Postby starvingeyes » 3/20/2003, 8:05 pm

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Postby happening fish » 3/20/2003, 8:30 pm

I still don't understand what happened with that. Why didn't she move out of the way when she was clearly about to be run over?
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Postby starvingeyes » 3/20/2003, 8:41 pm

they had been obstructing bulldozers all day, and so far had proved successful.

as the bulldozers would approach, they would pull up the dirt underneath the feet of the protestors to try and knock them off balance or push them backwards. rachel climbed up on this mound and became trapped under it as the bulldozer continued to press forward. previously, the dozers had stopped but i guess this time the idf decided to send a message to the pesky protestors who were trying to do something the mighty american government does not have the balls to do.

by the time rachel realized that the bulldozer was not going to stop it was too late, and she was killed.
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Postby Corey » 3/20/2003, 9:27 pm

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Postby Bandalero » 3/20/2003, 10:56 pm

Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Postby starvingeyes » 3/21/2003, 2:44 pm

it wasn't an accident. she was clearly visibile to the driver as shown in the photos. need more evidence? i've got plenty:

<img src ="http://electronicintifada.net/artman/uploads/largerachfront.jpg">

right before getting hit. no question that she was visible.

here are 4 eye witness accounts of the incident
http://www.electronicintifada.net/v2/article1263.shtml

no accident. murder.

the bulldozers are owned and operated by the IDF. the americans are sending money to the IDF. while it's impossible for me to prove to you that american money was used to buy these particular bulldozers, i don't see how that's important. the americans are sending 1 billion dollars to the same people who just brutally killed one of their own.

that quote is from the full text of the current geneva convention. 2 protocols have been added to the text since it's inception, but none of hte original text has been modified. it is a war crime to destroy private property. period.

the full text of the un security council resolution 242 is available on the link i provided. it's very short. read it yourself and then decided if it seems like that resolution was meant to expire.
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Postby Bandalero » 3/21/2003, 3:34 pm

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Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
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Postby mosaik » 3/21/2003, 3:42 pm

who cares if she was trapped intentionally... that's not what killed her.

it was the bulldozer running over and then reversing over her body that killed her. the bulldozer driver saw her fall and become pinned beneath the churning dirt and yet he proceeded.

it was murder. in cold blood.
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Postby starvingeyes » 3/21/2003, 3:53 pm

when you see that you have trapped a human being amidst a pile of dirt in front of your advancing bulldozer, what do you do?

stop the bulldozer. you cannot "accidently" run over and then reverse over somebody you did not see. the driver did not stop bulldozing the home or even get out after killing rachel. he killed her, backed over her, and went on with his illegal business.
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Postby Dr. Hobo » 3/21/2003, 4:02 pm

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Postby starvingeyes » 3/21/2003, 4:08 pm

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Postby Dr. Hobo » 3/21/2003, 5:26 pm

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Postby Bandalero » 3/22/2003, 12:15 am

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Postby Corey » 3/22/2003, 5:50 pm

The guy was just doing his job. How would you feel about someone screaming at you with a megaphone while you were at work?
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