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by dumbandjaded13 » 4/12/2003, 12:52 pm
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by Sufjan Stevens » 4/12/2003, 1:34 pm
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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by thirdhour » 4/12/2003, 8:21 pm
I kinda have to agree with doug on this one. You guys didn't even stop to think about how much this is going to hurt this already war-torn nation before laughing about it. I'm not asking you to change the fucking world, just have some compation for other human beings.
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by Bandalero » 4/12/2003, 10:43 pm
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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by mosaik » 4/13/2003, 10:13 am
am i full of shit or what? here i am already.
but the gloves are off. i'm prepared to be a total fucking dickhead now.
on to dumbandjaded's post... very good choice of names there my friend...
ahem: let me give you a lesson in the fine art of debate. in a debate over an issue such as war, the people debaing each choose a side, or a position. then they form a little thing called an argument and they compare their argument with the other person(s). they do not flail, whine and scream about "opinions". in a debate, one person is wrong and the other is right. one person will win and the other will lose.
the fact is, nine times out of ten in this forum it's my argument against your opinions. you guys do not know why you support the war. need proof? check out the "Iraqi War Quiz" topic i posted and see how many folks actually bothered to respond. One. and Corey, i'm happy you posted but some of your answers were a little off.
Go ahead and make a simillar quiz, only pro-war. I can answer all the questions, any you could possibly think of.
i am so tempted to flame you d&j, the nasty words are on my fingertips but i'm holding off... i am not closeminded. i'll need you to prove that, otherwise it's a baseless allegation. if you can't prove that i'm close minded in your next post i'm going to let you have it right back.
i'm blind? wrong! i am the only one who can SEE what is actualy going on! you say positive things are happening in Iraq and i respond with a thread that shows that the whole country is in a state of chaos! IS THAT POSITIVE?
which brings me to reno, who seems to think it is.
they're not fucking celebrating. they're stealing. celebrating = good. stealing = bad.
it's gotten so bad that vigilante iraqi's are taking justice into their own hands. thank god somebody over there has a fucking concience.
what do i expect you to say? I expect you not to make light of it. if i take a shot at somebody's military friend or make fun of the dead amerikan nazi soldiers over in iraq, you guys will have a spaz. it's so disrespectful, you'll say. it's wrong.
alan if you really think i want you to follow me like sheep, then you haven't been fucking listening.
jesus. what did i want? i want to understand why anybody would support the murder that's going on in iraq. I wanted to LEARN. not sit here and have the suffering of the iraqi people made into a fucking college football game.
if you guys give me shit in your response to this post, you can all KMA. all my patience is used up.
but the gloves are off. i'm prepared to be a total fucking dickhead now.
on to dumbandjaded's post... very good choice of names there my friend...
ahem: let me give you a lesson in the fine art of debate. in a debate over an issue such as war, the people debaing each choose a side, or a position. then they form a little thing called an argument and they compare their argument with the other person(s). they do not flail, whine and scream about "opinions". in a debate, one person is wrong and the other is right. one person will win and the other will lose.
the fact is, nine times out of ten in this forum it's my argument against your opinions. you guys do not know why you support the war. need proof? check out the "Iraqi War Quiz" topic i posted and see how many folks actually bothered to respond. One. and Corey, i'm happy you posted but some of your answers were a little off.
Go ahead and make a simillar quiz, only pro-war. I can answer all the questions, any you could possibly think of.
i am so tempted to flame you d&j, the nasty words are on my fingertips but i'm holding off... i am not closeminded. i'll need you to prove that, otherwise it's a baseless allegation. if you can't prove that i'm close minded in your next post i'm going to let you have it right back.
i'm blind? wrong! i am the only one who can SEE what is actualy going on! you say positive things are happening in Iraq and i respond with a thread that shows that the whole country is in a state of chaos! IS THAT POSITIVE?
which brings me to reno, who seems to think it is.
they're not fucking celebrating. they're stealing. celebrating = good. stealing = bad.
it's gotten so bad that vigilante iraqi's are taking justice into their own hands. thank god somebody over there has a fucking concience.
what do i expect you to say? I expect you not to make light of it. if i take a shot at somebody's military friend or make fun of the dead amerikan nazi soldiers over in iraq, you guys will have a spaz. it's so disrespectful, you'll say. it's wrong.
alan if you really think i want you to follow me like sheep, then you haven't been fucking listening.
jesus. what did i want? i want to understand why anybody would support the murder that's going on in iraq. I wanted to LEARN. not sit here and have the suffering of the iraqi people made into a fucking college football game.
if you guys give me shit in your response to this post, you can all KMA. all my patience is used up.
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by dumbandjaded13 » 4/13/2003, 11:53 am
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by Sufjan Stevens » 4/13/2003, 12:22 pm
I don't support murder. I have agreed with you on nearly every point you've made about this war. The looting is coming to an end now, people are starting to enforce laws there to end the robbing and random building fires. I'm done now.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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by Bandalero » 4/14/2003, 12:13 pm
i'm glad to see the Iraqi people venting....however it's through rioting, not the best form of venting. as some of you might know it's good to let out your anger and your emotions, especially when you are indeed celebrating something. is it wrong? no. is rioting wrong? yes. should they celebrate in an approprite manner? yes, they should be doing something constructive. not deconstructive.
this just proves what i said in the Phil. warfare topic, that regular people don't think rationally, they do what they think is best for them when in all actuality it does nothing to help their cause and it diminishes the quality of life for everyone when you don't make rational decisions. In a time of chaos, celebration, and looting you do not have time to think rationally, you just protect yourself and if you wish to, you go out and raise hell like the rest.
this just proves what i said in the Phil. warfare topic, that regular people don't think rationally, they do what they think is best for them when in all actuality it does nothing to help their cause and it diminishes the quality of life for everyone when you don't make rational decisions. In a time of chaos, celebration, and looting you do not have time to think rationally, you just protect yourself and if you wish to, you go out and raise hell like the rest.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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by dumbandjaded13 » 4/21/2003, 11:30 am
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