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by **Heavy Alibi** » 1/6/2009, 11:34 pm

yeah, I mean since 1993 (before?) this guy has been singing, has performed hundreds of live concerts, and unlike most rock singers, actually had amazing range and could change pitches back and forth so beautifully and effortlessly... just listen to "Blister", "Thief", and pretty much anything from Spiritual Machines.

With the hundreds of live performances of the intricate and vocal cord-numbing music they've produced, we should just be happy he can still talk! He was pretty well one of the instruments for many of their songs! (Superman's Dead)...I mean just try to sing Starseed at all the right octaves without getting hoarse! Go ahead! (I always try in the car and fail miserably)

by **Driven** » 1/7/2009, 12:11 am

Kicker774 wrote:Joel never really added a lot to OLP

I find that incredibly hard to believe.

by **Lando** » 1/7/2009, 12:14 am

It's definitely a possibility for why he doesn't sound so good anymore. He doesn't have the range he used to, but who really knows. His voice could've just changed. There are a lot of singers with a vast amount of range who've performed for many more years and never lost their voices the way he has... could just be natural voice change... Or maybe he got punched in the throat and damaged his vocal chords that way!

Truth is, we don't know for sure why it's so different.

by **Driven** » 1/7/2009, 12:58 am

Monkey Brains brings back memories of old school Smashing Pumpkins music, for me.

by **Johnny** » 1/7/2009, 1:20 am

Jeremy obviously karate chopped Raine in the voice box, thus causing the strain. :nod:

by **crustine** » 1/7/2009, 10:37 am

or maybe he didnt sing properly and did the damage himself. Singing from the throat will do that.

by **Codes** » 1/7/2009, 1:13 pm

Raine got Chris Cornell'd

by **Lando** » 1/7/2009, 4:57 pm

except Chris Cornell still sounds awesome.

(Note: his new solo album does not count, because it's garbage)

by **Codes** » 1/7/2009, 7:04 pm

he still doesn't sound like he used too

by **Shanae** » 1/7/2009, 7:17 pm

I noticed it too. Hopefully some of it was just the cold weather. It's just very weak and pitchy, and if I do remember so, he didn't even sing the ending of Superman's Dead. It was just instrumental, wasn't it? Or was I not paying attention? I didn't hear "Doesn't any, any, any, any, any-hay" near the end.

But yeah, singing for say.... 20 years would wear you down. Has anybody ever heard the lead singer of Three Days Grace talk during a tour? I saw a snippet of an interview with him and his voice was barely even a whisper.

by **myownsatellite** » 1/7/2009, 7:35 pm

Wasn't he trying to get the crowd to sing on that one? I can't remember which one he swore at us until the whole crowd finally sang.

by **MindsOnLoan** » 1/7/2009, 8:06 pm

Well Shanae, 3DG's lead singer's (Adam Gontier) voice is just like that. He pretty much always whispers, as I've heard him in interviews that weren't after a concert and he sounds exactly the same.

by **xjsb125** » 1/7/2009, 10:38 pm

They were disappointing the last time I saw them. His voice is shot.

by **Lando** » 1/8/2009, 12:51 am

Codes wrote:he still doesn't sound like he used too

In his audioslave stuff it was damn close to his soundgarden voice, only less dirty or grungy.

on purpose i assume.

by **Waiting to Exist** » 1/8/2009, 3:28 am

Saman, I would love to talk to you again, but in a hilarious turn of events, I don't have my computer anymore. So I'm using my dad's until I can acquire a new one. But once I'm back, I promise, I'll give you all kinds of updates.

Unrelatedly, Our Lady Peace.

by **xjsb125** » 1/8/2009, 7:45 am

Chris also had a hard time pulling those songs off live.

by **Random Name** » 1/8/2009, 10:03 am

Naw, if you guys want to hear what being a vocalist can do to your voice, He Is Legend is like... case and point. He screams, yells, drinks, smokes and toured like mad... and by the time their second album came out a lot of people thought it was an entirely new singer. He doesn't sound like the same person.
From what I can hear, Raine is still decent.

by **MindsOnLoan** » 1/9/2009, 4:09 pm

Well, I just saw a video of Waiting For Something to Happen from NYE on YouTube. I actually kind of liked the guitar work at the beginning of the song, but it the song got old very quickly. It just seemed to basic and didn't seem to have much to keep you listening. The lyrics aren't that great, Jeremy's drumming sounds just like it did on Healthy (I was hoping he'd get wild on them again), and I didn't really hear the bass so I can't comment on it. I would have liked it better if it would have started out with that guitar and then evolved into something with a bit more emotion and something you could really get into.

by **NCdudeN2K4** » 1/9/2009, 4:18 pm

Does anyone have a .flac for 'Waiting for Something to Happen"?

by **Kicker774** » 1/9/2009, 5:41 pm

NCdudeN2K4 wrote:Does anyone have a .flac for 'Waiting for Something to Happen"?

Check this link in about 15 minutes:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d7eb ... b9a8902bda

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